Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bob Snyder (musician)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 01:38, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Bob Snyder (musician)

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WP:N. Seems to be a vanity article that relies on the subject's own website as a primary source. Subject does not otherwise seem to be particularly notable. Saget53 (talk) 18:26, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep When I created the article, I used what I could find. I have access to other sources now and while I don't have time to do anything with this today, I found this already: Kitt Walsh, "Night Scene: Snyder's making music at his Deck restaurant," Naples Daily News, April 11, 2003.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  19:21, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:34, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indiana-related deletion discussions. Spiderone  23:45, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * speed Delete per nom . there is nothing relevant to talk about, fail Wikipedia Notability Samat lib (talk) 21:07, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep only one 'vote' Read it again. Just the sources I used and what was included. If that's not enough I can find more.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  19:16, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep for the reasons of those who want this article kept. Davidgoodheart (talk) 04:53, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep - Sources indicate notability within WP:GNG. I say weak keep for now. BabbaQ (talk) 00:40, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep has reliable sources coverage such as The Oklahoman and Naples News referenced in the article, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 00:54, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - I spent a half hour unsuccessfully trying to find coverage of him. He apparently died last year, and I updated the article accordingly, but I could only find a funeral home announcement. The sourcing is just announcements about him playing at clubs or various benefits, and in at least one case that I could find, it looks like the local paper cut and pasted a bio he provided. There's also a community newsletter used as a source. He has two CDs for sale on Amazon, but they don't seem to have any reviews or other sourcing to suggest notability. There's nowhere near enough reliable sourcing to substantiate the bio and the claims it makes, and certainly nothing that independently validates that he was ever at the top of the clarinet field.  TimTempleton (talk)  (cont)  23:38, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 02:29, 19 December 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment I know a lot of the articles look like they are merely announcements that he played, but they are quite detailed if you can find them. I didn't use a source that said, "according to bobsnyder.com" for most of its facts, but no one else did anything like that, and each source had different information. With no evidence suggesting they didn't, I concluded each of these journalists did more than just use what was provided. I will admit there are conflicting reports about which album contains the notable recording. And it is the recording of "Amazing Grace" that makes him notable, if anything. How you source this I don't know, but if DJ Joe Lacina on his nationwide show had "Bob Snyder Time" every Saturday night as he did until shortly before I created this, that has to count for something.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  18:34, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   21:34, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I should have done this to begin with. It is quite logical to want to know more about the man who was a featured artist every week on Joe Lacina's national radio show. While I can't provide good sources for this, every Saturday night at 11 the same song on a clarinet was played and Lacina would announce "It's Bob Snyder time." That in itself would prove notability, if I could prove it. At the very least, it provides a logical reason to do the research, and as with so many topics I researched, I allowed Wikipedia to benefit from my efforts. I didn't understand about independent sources or notability back then.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  21:13, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I was told to list some sources that seem to demonstrate notability. If you can find these, there is a lot of detail, and while I can't prove the journalists didn't merely get their information from what was provided by Bob Snyder himself, there is nothing like "according to bobsnyder.com" in any of these.
 * Loomis, Mike (1998-03-18). "Snyder's 'amazing' career continues to blossom". Naples Daily News. p. G26.
 * Beal Jr., Jim (1999-11-19). "Snyder to perform for benefit brunch". San Antonio Express-News.
 * Walsh, Kitt (2000-10-20). "Hit The Deck for food, music worthy of royalty". Naples Daily News. p. G.
 * Walsh, Kitt (2003-04-11). "Night Scene: Snyder's making music at his Deck restaurant". Naples Daily News. p. G15.


 * And while it's not a great source, this would seem to support my statement that Joe Lacina played Snyder on Saturday nights on a nationwide show.
 * Stetson, Nancy (2018-04-12). "Life's still a 'Cabaret' for 87-year-old Naples resident". Naples Daily News. p. Arts and Entertainment.

— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  20:00, 28 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep There are some sources in this article that suggest notability. Even if they are only about a dozen of these sources, they aren't just passing mentions, but articles dedicated to Bob Snyder. More sources could be found, however. Lazman321 (talk) 18:46, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


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