Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bob Wiggins


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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 06:44, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Bob Wiggins

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Appears to fail both WP:GNG and the former and current standards of WP:NBASE. The only sources are an archive of a now-defunct blog and a dead link for his obituary, neither of which are reliable or independent of the subject. Wiggins played briefly in the dying days of the Negro league, long, long after they were anything resembling major league caliber. Couldn't find any hits for Wiggins during his playing career on newspapers.com, and any hits from post-career where brief mentions of autograph signings, reunions, and one brief interview in the Chicago Tribune where he says he didn't even get paid for playing in 1959 and 60, his only years in the Negro American League. Penale52 (talk) 19:17, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Penale52 (talk) 19:20, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Penale52 (talk) 19:22, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Why wouldn't the Chicago Sun-Times obituary be independent? Because it's from Chicago? StAnselm (talk) 19:34, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * If there was a copy of it, it might help, but usually obituaries have information supplied from the family, so I'm not sure how it could be completely independent of the subject. Even if it supports his brief career, his tenure happened so far removed from major league quality competition, I'm not sure it would even matter. Penale52 (talk) 19:40, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course, if he passes GNG, then it doesn't matter what the level is. Anyway, the text of the obituary appears to be here. StAnselm (talk) 21:35, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ‡ El cid, el campeador  talk  21:20, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:10, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to. generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Comment I'd consider this independent, but minor coverage. He was associated with a charity, and they have a profile of him, . And whatever else is given in the article, keep I guess. I'd prefer if we kept ALL baseball articles, but we have notability guidelines. Oaktree b (talk) 23:33, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've rescued the dead Chicago Sun-Times article, the article is here. It's a real article independent of the subject, entitled, "Outfielder, passed up by Sox, made his mark in the old Negro Leagues." Based on that and the other couple of non-trivial mentions, I think this passes. Andre🚐 06:19, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - if the obituary is independent, and it is from a reliable source, then this barely meets GNG. Rlendog (talk) 13:42, 26 August 2022 (UTC)


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