Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bobcat Bite (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:28, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Bobcat Bite
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I don't think this restaurant meets notability for Wikipedia. I'm just not seeing a lot of coverage out there and restaurants, even "award-winning" ones, aren't necessarily notable. It appears that editors are not disclosing COI, either, though I can't be sure. But with sentences such as: "The Panzers snuck behind the Eckre family's back and copyrighted the Bobcat Bite name", it's hard to see how the article is neutral or notable. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 17:58, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I haven't yet analyzed the article sufficiently to offer a !vote here, but I have reverted copyvio/promo content introduced in July and requested a revdel thereof. --Finngall talk  18:03, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Mexico-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 18:17, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 18:17, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The book has an eight-paragraph entry for Bobcat Bite. The book notes: "A visit to the Bobcat Bite for a green chile cheeseburger results in what I like to call the 'Whole Burger Experience.' The restaurant, the people who work there, the relaxed environment, and a stellar burger all coalesce into a perfect hamburger moment. ... The Bobcast Bite is way out of town, southeast on the long, lonely Old Las Vegas Highway. The low adobe structure sits on a rocky washboard incline at the foot of what once was a large quarterhourse ranch. The interior is cozy New Mexican with a low viga ceiling and a large picture window that looks out toward the old ranch and a hummingbird feeder. Seating is limited—there are only eight stools at the counter, five tables, and just recently added, three tables on the front porch (weather permitting). The restaurant got its name from the bobcats that used to come down from the surrounding mountains to eat scraps that had been tossed out the back door. ... In 1953, Rene Clayton, owner of the Bobcat Ranch, turned a gun shop into a restaurant. Today, Bonnie and her husband, John, keep tradition alive by serving a green chile cheeseburger that has been on the menu since the place opened. Fresh chuck steaks are ground and pattied by Bonnie's brother nearby. In 2006, John decided to switch over to naturally raised antibiotic- and hormone-free beef. He made one of the best burgers in America even better."  The book notes: "The Bobcat Bite is no longer, another sad victim of selfishness and greed, but I'm happy to report that the spirit of the Bobcat has been salvaged thanks, of course, to New Mexico's first couple of the Green Chile Cheeseburger, John and Bonnie Eckre. ... But as we know, all good things must come to an end. For most of us this one ended far too soon. A rent hike and an ownership disagreement forced John and Bonnie into a very tough decision, and in 2013 they shut down the sixty-year-old Bobcat and reopened a few months later as the Santa Fe Bite."  The article notes: "More than three years ago, award-winning cinematographer George Motz and a camera crew turned up at Bobcat Bite, the venerable roadhouse just south of Santa Fe on the Old Las Vegas Highway."</li> <li> The review notes: "Bobcat Bite is legendary in Santa Fe as a carnivore's heaven. Want a big burger, a big steak, or some pork chops? This is the place ... The burger was big, about the size of a dessert plate and more than an inch thick, covered with melted white cheese and chopped green chile. It took a lot of smashing to get it down to mouth size. It was a darned good burger, but a little too dry, and a little too close to well-done. The cheese was gooey, the chile not too hot, and the home fries were little potato nuggets, charred a bit here and there. Yum."</li> <li> The article notes: "Bobcat Bite has been a family-owned restaurant for more than 50 years. Originally a trading post and then a gun shop, the building became a restaurant in 1953 under the ownership of Rene Clayton and management of her daughter, Mizi Panzer. Subsequent operators continue using some of the same recipes Bobcat Bite has served for decades."</li> <li> The restaurant review notes: "With nearly 50 years of family-owned restaurant experience under its belt, the Bobcat Bite delivers straightforward food with reasonable prices. Although I’m an advocate of highway safety, I suggest you get there as fast as you can (within the law, of course) and as hungry as you wanna be."</li> <li> The article notes: "A documentary in the Santa Fe Film Festival spotlights local favorite Bobcat Bite. Cinematographer George Motz gladly returned to Bobcat Bite on Friday, where he made short work of a hefty green chile cheeseburger."</li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> <li></li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Bobcat Bite to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 01:38, 12 September 2021 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Keep. Appears to have decent coverage.-- Surv1v4l1st ▌Talk 04:04, 15 September 2021 (UTC)


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