Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bojan Ilievski


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 22:08, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Bojan Ilievski

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I can't find any coverage beyond routine press about signing to teams, having searched online with both Latin and Cyrillic spellings, doesn't meet WP:GNG. Previously nominated for PROD, deprod-ed by without explanation. signed,Rosguill talk 18:11, 9 November 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, AmirŞah  21:27, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Sports, Football,  and North Macedonia. signed,Rosguill talk 18:11, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:18, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 20:37, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - Draft? Noted in,, not even noted on Arab News, terrible match review! However I don't know Macedonian or Greek in order to do a real comprehensive search. I see , you say you have, but have you? Isn't there a why and a how the guy made the national team? Macedonian football league is small fry and the club he plays for has only a capacity of 3K, that is suggestive it may not be the most important thing out there, but is it? I am I not sure I agree with your assessment here. Govvy (talk) 22:33, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Not sure why Greek would be part of this, Ilievski appears to have exclusively played in North Macedonia based on the information available, not Greece. I searched for his name in and a few generic keywords in English and Macedonian like "фудбал" on both Google and Yandex and came up with nothing significant. signed,Rosguill talk 22:41, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Why not Greek? A neighbouring country who has an interest in football who also cover Macedonian news. I am frankly surprised by this nomination, deleting an international player yet again. I saw a load of Danish international players deleted because no one wants to do the research, that information is lost now? But it seems the Macedonian wikipedia, no one has updated the national team page there since when? Not sure if it said last updated in 2018. Shame isn't it. Govvy (talk)
 * This seems to say more about the presumption of notability for international players than it does about this specific player's notability. signed,Rosguill talk 23:00, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Danish sportspeople have been particularly targeted because access to Danish newspapers less than 100 years old is severely restricted, so unless an editor is physically in Denmark it's almost impossible to find appropriate sources. This is no ground to conclude as above that there is a problem with the presumption of notability - but people tend to see what they want to see. Ingratis (talk) 12:58, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Coming from Macedonia myself, Id say you can quite much never find deeper coverage about any Macedonian Football League player aside from routine press. The sports press in Macedonia is very small and certainly no international sites would ever write anything about Macedonian players, so expecting to find articles online about Ilievski or any other player from PMFL is being very optimistic lol In any case, the bottom line is that he did get called up for our national team and he indeed entered the match against Saudi Arabia, so as a National team player i assumed he qualified for an article. At the end of the day, its not like you can ever really find deeper coverage about players from San Marino or Andorra or so, but if they have been capped for their respective national teams then they still qualify for a page on wikipedia. Msb73505 (talk) 19:16, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * As has been alluded to earlier in the discussion, the subject-specific notability guideline that specified that national team members are automatically notable was deprecated following WP:NSPORTS2022 and is no longer in force. signed,Rosguill talk 19:35, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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