Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bollywood Hundred Crore Club


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. No policy backed arguments for this article's inclusion have been presented. I'm deleting the article at this time, but any editor can feel free to contact me for the article's content if needed for merging. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 17:08, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Bollywood Hundred Crore Club

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List of highest-grossing Bollywood films already exists and has been suggested by someone to be merged into List of highest-grossing Indian films worldwide. This is totally redundant, misleading--contains wrong infomation and sources are not consistent for all films, meaning a source that highly inflates gross amount for all films, is used to source only few films on this page, thereby making them look higher ranked when they are not. This page is also subjected to high level of vandalism and very few Wiki-administrators 've knowledge about the subject in question. Joyceevan (talk) 05:17, 29 December 2013 (UTC) Also, a day 'll come when there 'll be hundred 100-Crore grossing films. It's ever enlarging. So best is to delete this aricle and list the highest grossing films on List of highest-grossing Bollywood films.--Joyceevan (talk) 05:45, 29 December 2013 (UTC) Merged Joyceevan' comments into one. Please don't use star mark again & again for different comments of yours. It will be hindrance while counting vote. - Jayadevp  13  05:53, 29 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Strong oppose/Keep for now especially since multiple discussions regarding the content & status of this particular article is going on here and here. You should have waited for a few more days before taking a decision. - Jayadevp  13  05:27, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * That is why I nominated it--Joyceevan (talk) 05:36, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Strong oppose/Keep for now especially since it is now in much significance in bollywood ,trade magazines,new channels,prin and electronic media.--Nehapant19 (talk) 06:33, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Despite the multitudinous cutting and re-cutting and re-re-cutting of the same data in different ways, the current content is completely redundant to List of highest-grossing Bollywood films and should be deleted / merged (if there is anything encyclopedic in this article which is not already in the other article)- with extreme prejudice against recreation in anything close to this format. However, the concept of the "100 Crore Club" as a marketing gimmick / promotional hypemobile is potentially worthy of an all text article which covers the "concept of the 'club' "- where the term came from, how it is used, its importance (or perceived importance) in the industry and by raving fans, the critique of it as being a purely promotional concept of no actual value etc. - as opposed to lists of "members". -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  18:04, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment The article in question was since moved (a couple of times   ) to Bollywood films grossing above 100 crore. Also, there was already an active merge discussion involving several similar articles. Not sure if it is appropriate to proceed with this AfD until while the merge discussion is in play. Dl2000 (talk) 18:30, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy procedural keep - Ref WP:SK, the nominator is now effectively banned with an indefinite block. The parallel merge discussion is also proposing significant changes to the article which will likely render the original deletion rationale void (WP:ATD). Dl2000 (talk) 04:49, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment, I almost just closed the discussion on this basis, but since there are experienced editors in good standing agreeing with the nomination, I think it's best to leave it open to be closed in the usual way. Lankiveil (speak to me) 10:44, 8 January 2014 (UTC).
 * Strong oppose/Comment As creator pf the page i oppose and also try to make my point clear. The unaceptable moving of the page from the name "Bollywood 100 Crore Club" to "Bollywood films grossing above 100 crore" by an unauthorized user User talk:Nehapant19 who has been warned several times for doing mess in wikipedia different pages has destroyed the page. In the 2013 Zee Cine Awards directors of Bollywood 100 Crore Club were awarded with a special award namng The Power Club Box Office(100 crore club award). So the page must be moved to its original name to protect it. Dr. Shahid Alam ( Talk to Me ) 22:40, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, you have said that many times. However, that is not a reason to keep a page. Please specify what policies you are basing your rationale upon. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  22:48, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:47, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:47, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 12:47, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - per WP:NOT. "Bollywood Hundred Crore Club" (100-crore club of Bollywood, 100 crore club in Bollywood, Bollywood 100 Crore Club) is a neologism, not a subtopic of List of highest-grossing Bollywood films. However, the current article attempts to convey factual accuracy along the lines of List of highest-grossing Bollywood films, but the topic appears to be nothing more than a marketing gimmick. An expert in the area notes in this article: "Actor Arshad Warsi, who is best known for his role of Circuit in the Munnabhai series and Babban in filmmaker Abhishek Chaubey’s Ishqiya, finds Bollywood’s R100 crore club "lame". The 44-year-old, who has been in the industry for around a decade, says: "I find this whole Rs. 100 crore club very stupid. How can every film releasing lately do a business of Rs. 100 crores all of a sudden?""


 * An article meeting WP:NEO, such as the draft at User:TheRedPenOfDoom/sandbox/B100CC, is fine. -- Jreferee (talk) 04:40, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * If you look at almost the end part of this discussion than you would see that we were thinking of replacing the entire contents of the article with that in User:TheRedPenOfDoom/sandbox/B100CC. But we couldn't possibly do it because of an open AfD and merger proposal. - Jayadevp  13  05:11, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * AfD takes precedent over the non-AfD merge proposals and the closer of this AfD should close out an non-AfD merge or other discussion related to what to do with Bollywood Hundred Crore Club. The default length of an RfC and merge proposals is 30 days whereas an AfD can be closed after seven days. Given the multiple discussions, it was correct to bring the issue to AfD to get a clear resolution and have a clear time frame as to when the issue can receive a consensus decision. Deleting Bollywood Hundred Crore Club instead of replacing the entire contents of the article will give consensus to keep out the tables etc. from any future of the Bollywood Hundred Crore Club page. Deleting only affects a particular topic. Deleting a list article on Bollywood Hundred Crore Club does not prevent subsequently moving User:TheRedPenOfDoom/sandbox/B100CC to the same location. -- Jreferee (talk) 05:41, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete or Merge (if possible) to List of highest-grossing Bollywood films per User:TheRedPenOfDoom. I supported the merge proposal at Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films_worldwide, but have been holding off from posting here until an admin commented on whether it was correct to bring it to AFD. As Dr. Shahid Alam points out above, this page has been subject to extensive edit warring and page moves. This, as I see it, is a clue that the page name is part of the problem, and will continue to attract this sort of discordant editing. The neologism "100 Crore Club" is notable enough for a a brief, referenced mention in List of highest-grossing Bollywood films.  Ruby   Murray  16:12, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * delete If there's anything significant, merge it to List of highest-grossing Bollywood films Andy Dingley (talk) 11:17, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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