Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bonnie George Campbell


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 03:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Bonnie George Campbell

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Page to be deleted, poem moved to Wikisource, synopsis to Child Ballads. Could use a hand on this one if someone has a moment...List of the Child Ballads shows a great deal of effort, but not every one of these poems is individually notable (though some definitely are). I don't know how to handle this sort of major cleanup. Kickstart70 T C 06:01, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * 'Strong and rapid Keep By established practice every every one of these ballads is in fact   separately notable by our established standards for musics and for literature.Much other traditional literature and musics is also,but this is the central body for anglo-american traditions.  . The Child Ballad collection itself   lists abundant earlier  sources for variant forms, historical analogs, geographic variation, all of this with respect to be the text and also to the the music/  Generations of scholarhip in folklore and music and traditional culture have deal with this corpus of material over the following century.,  There is no shortage of academic works--there is no shortage of popular renditions and discussions either--many of them famous. There are some better known than others, but every individual one there  is worthy of a full detailed article done  carefully and fully with an awareness of the tradition and of the scholarship.  DGG (talk) 07:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Very dramatic, but you've still not helped prove notability of this single poem for it's own page. -- Kickstart70 T C 17:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:47, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. The Child Ballads collection is a reliable source that shows notability of each of the ballads contained within it, but if that's not enough for you have a look through these 633 books that refer to this subject. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:49, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, the notability of the collection does not necessarily confer notability to each ballad within it. This sort of argument has been presented for prose and poetry repeatedly...not every character in a notable piece of fiction is notable enough for their own page, not every chapter in a book is notable enough for discussion, and not every scene in a movie is notable enough for a page on Wikipedia...but some definitely are. This Afd is not about the notability of the Child Ballads. It's about this specific poem/ballad. Show the specific notability of this ballad and I will gladly withdraw the Afd. I am no wikipedia deletionist! -- Kickstart70 T C 03:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I  showed you the specific notability of this ballad with the Google Books link above. Phil Bridger (talk) 10:23, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No, you showed me a list of books that contain this ballad, along with all of the other ballads. You have not expressed specific notability of this ballad. -- Kickstart70 T C 20:29, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I would also add that Wikisource is the place for the content of these ballads, not Wikipedia. No matter what the outcome of this Afd, that should happen. -- Kickstart70 T C 03:50, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


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