Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boris Bondarev


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 22:22, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Boris Bondarev

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WP:BLP1E. Only time WP:RS mention him is for his resignation. Firestar464 (talk) 04:13, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Russia. Firestar464 (talk) 04:13, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree with BLP1E, there are a few targets for a merge but I think Protests against the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine is probably the best place. ansh. 666 04:56, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:21, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Weak Keep Could develop more medial receiption as a dambuster in russian retreats. Ｔｏｍ (talk) 09:52, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


 * The proposal of ansh definitely makes sense. Agree. --united we are strong, says Landkraft 09:55, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep. This Russian career diplomat has been widely reported in the media around the free world and the Russian invasion of Ukraine will be always a main topic in world history and the history of Europe. NAIDEPIKIW NONA (talk) 11:42, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


 * You might wanna have a read of BLP1E. Firestar464 (talk) 01:38, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep. -way too fast to delete. It is true that -at the moment- WP:RS sources all over the world mention him only in the context of his resignation. WP:BLP1E states: We generally should avoid having an article on a person when each of three conditions is met: Bondarev is hardly a low-profile individual and this is no insignificant event. He can still be included on Protests against the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine--Wuerzele (talk) 12:52, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a single event.
 * If that person otherwise remains, and is likely to remain, a low-profile individual. Biographies in these cases can give undue weight to the event and conflict with neutral point of view. In such cases, it is usually better to merge the information and redirect the person's name to the event article.
 * If the event is not significant or the individual's role was either not substantial or not well documented.


 * He was basically unmentioned in any sources before this event, and he's certainly not the only Russian official to resign. We wouldn't write an article Resignation of Boris Bondarev. ansh. 666 15:49, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep — to avoid, e.g., a situation, where information on him (his deeds) can be found only via Wikipedias in other languages... ☆☆☆— PietadèTalk 13:09, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

'''Keep. Definitely!''' Wikipedia shall provide important, useful, correct information to the people. It is very important that a senior member of the Russian diplomacy has acted as he has done. It is very useful to know that also among high level Russian civil servants there are mixed attitudes to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. He has made it to the front page of a huge number of newspapers. From a quick look at Google, it may seem that more than 100 000 web pages have mentioned Boris Bondarev. It would be very strange if Wikipedia should refuse to let people know who this person is.

The "Subjects notable for only one event" guideline is not absolute. Lee Harvey Oswald is known only for one event, and yet nobody would dream about removing his Pikipedia pages in more than 50 languages.

Wikipedia has set aside space for hundreds of curling players. It would be very strange to deny space for a person who contributes to changing world history.

The English-language Wikipedia article about Boris Bondarev has already been expanded and tweaked by several Wikipedia contributors. Obviously all these see the article as important enough for spending time on improving it.

Wikipedia articles about Boris Bondarev are now appearing in several other languages than English. Obviously there are lots of Wikipedia contributors who see Boris Bondarev as important enough for writing about him.

Joreberg (talk) 13:22, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


 * WP:ATA (your arguments fall under many of these categories), plus sports players have their own notability criteria, and Boris isn't one. Firestar464 (talk) 01:39, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep per Wuerzele.--A09090091 (talk) 19:56, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't object to what he's saying but this article should at the very least be merged with Protests against the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. Firestar464 (talk) 01:40, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep The subject has received notable coverage. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 02:34, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep Subject has received notable coverage. Autarch (talk) 04:49, 25 May 2022 (UTC)


 * For only one event (resigning). Firestar464 (talk) 06:02, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep It's entirely possible, likely even, that his resignation will lead to other noteworthy events that will further justify this page's existence. Even if that wasnt the case, a diplomat to Geneva isn't a trivial role, and Wikipedia contains numerous pages of living persons who serve analogous roles. In fact, this Wikipedia has an article for nearly every American ambassador to Geneva and Switzerland from the last 100 years. Why wouldn't we have a page for a Russian diplomat serving the same role, who, in addition to serving this role, resigned in protest of the government's actions in a country where dissent is historically harshly punished? I see absolutely no reason to delete this article, even if nothing else were to come of this. DeVosMax [ contribs • talk • created media ] 10:19, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with you. Help keep Boris safe Wikipedians. NAIDEPIKIW NONA (talk) 10:37, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Dude, it's not about liking the page...I commend what the dude has done but it's not about how much you like him. Firestar464 (talk) 02:15, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:OSE. Just because one thing exists doesn't mean that the other should. Besides, I had a look at many of the articles in the list you provided, and many did more than "just resign." Firestar464 (talk) 02:16, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Keep -Notwithstanding mentions of BLP1E- a major 1E with an immensely important context. BB far exceeds importance of many BLP0E articles out there (which do not necessarily need culling). Following on from User:DeVos Max, perhaps we need a list of Russian Ambassadors to Switzerland &c. Yadsalohcin (talk) 14:09, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

I do not see formal compliance with rules, but this is one of the cases when we can have an exception WP:5P5. Keep. Is my decision biased? Yes. Are most of the above as well? I think so. With regards, Oleg. Y.  (talk). 16:38, 26 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, could you please elaborate? Why is the exception useful? Firestar464 (talk) 00:34, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course. Saying no to Putin nowadays the way he did may mean 15 years in jail. He was brave enough to do it. With regards, Oleg. Y.  (talk). 01:37, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * So your argument is basically "I admire him." That does not indicate suitability for inclusion. Wikipedia is not a fan blog. Firestar464 (talk) 03:12, 31 May 2022 (UTC)


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