Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boris Rimlyanin


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The result was delete. Not much discussion, but the deletion proposal remains in substance unopposed, so this is deleted until somebody finds reliable sources that could serve as the basis for a recreation.  Sandstein  09:27, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Boris Rimlyanin

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Not only is this one unsourced, looking at the Malagasy article (which is one of the worst articles I've seen) shows almost basically nothing and only has a plain freebase.com link and it seemed to have been started by a bot in February. My searches also found absolutely nothing aside from this which has a photo. Granted this is a Russian 14th century subject so I imagine any good sources aren't easily available but I simply no signs of improvement here and this has stayed the same since starting in October 2007. Pinging author. SwisterTwister  talk  21:02, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  21:04, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  21:04, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment -- The source found by User:SwisterTwister| SwisterTwister ]] is an obvious WP mirror, with an irrelevant photo of some one from the Soviet era, clearly about 600 years after the time of the subject. His calim to fame is casting a bell.  If the bell survives, I would have expected an inscription on the bell to be a source, but apparently none do.  All we have are chronicles that I do not have access to.  "the Roman" might indicate that he came from Byzantium, where the people called themselves Romanoi -Romans, which might just be credible.  However, the whole article seems based on brief allusion in chronicles, padded out with interpretive matter.  The chances are that nothing else is known or knowable.  If someone can provide source citations, I would be willing to keep this, but until we get something I have to suspend judgment.  It may be significant that there seems to be no equivalent article in the Russian WP.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:40, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:21, 26 September 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:18, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Seems to be notable (for example, mentioned in the book by Sergey Solovyov, the mainstream text on the history of Russia, here. However, the text of the article seems to be a translation of this webpage, which is apparently copyrighted. Let us wait for the explanations of the creator of the article (who seems to be inactive though). It might be possible to rephrase though, I am in doubt as what to do.--Ymblanter (talk) 04:36, 9 October 2015 (UTC)


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