Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Born From Fire


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to The Quill (band).  MBisanz  talk 18:16, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Born From Fire

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Fails WP:GNG/WP:NMUSIC, redirected to The Quill but got reverted. Propose redirect (again). Kleuske (talk) 23:15, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The Quill meets the criteria for notability. Released eight albums over 22 years, all on various independent labels worldwide. Have toured all over Europe and in the United States. Danger2 (talk) 01:45, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I did not nominate the band, I nominated the album. Notability is not inherited. Kleuske (talk) 00:11, 26 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Album was released today and will most likely enter the national charts next week. Article now meets criteria with various independent sources added. Danger2 (talk) 02:56, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:23, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:23, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:23, 26 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment: what basis do you have for claiming that the album will enter the charts next week, considering none of the band's previous albums appear to have charted anywhere, including in their native Sweden? The AllMusic review is a user review, not a journalist's review, so isn't a valid source; the two external links merely confirm the release, not the album's notability. So the article (and previous articles for albums by the band) still lack reliable sources. Richard3120 (talk) 21:57, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Added online review from German Rocks Magazine as reference Danger2 (talk) 21:59, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 15:36, 1 September 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to The Quill (band): I was waiting to see if the album charted this week as confidently predicted above, and surprise, surprise, it didn't. The German Rocks review is a reliable one, but with only one RS in the whole article, it doesn't pass WP:NALBUM, which requires multiple reliable sources. Unless another RS is found, I agree with redirecting the article to the band. Richard3120 (talk) 18:22, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Added online review/reference from Swedish newspaper Barometern Danger2 (talk) 08:12, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947(c) (m) 04:28, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The album charted on the official Swedish sales-chart for week number 36 at number 8 in the most sold vinyl-category. http://www.sverigetopplistan.se/ (see category "vinyl" and week 36) Danger2 (talk) 22:39, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * So it didn't make the make the main national chart, then. Richard3120 (talk) 22:40, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: To discuss the newly added sources

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  So Why  18:42, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect to The Quill (band). As Richard3120 points out, new reference really doesn't add notability criteria. Ifnord (talk) 17:38, 25 September 2017 (UTC)


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