Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boston College–Syracuse football rivalry


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The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. —Ganesha811 (talk) 18:19, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Boston College–Syracuse football rivalry

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I don't think this is an actual rivalry. In a WP:BEFORE search (to learn more about the rivalry) I couldn't find any article which actually describes a rivalry. For instance this article only mentions that they're one of the protected scheduling games, but nothing about an actual rivalry. SportingFlyer  T · C  16:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC) Comment. I don't know enough about American football to have any opinion. However, transferring the question to British, French or Spanish football clubs, I would say that there are real long-standing rivalries between Everton and Liverpool, between Glasgow Rangers and Celtic, between Paris St Germain and Olympique de Marseille, and between Barcelona and Real Madrid. However, the fact that two teams may have played against one another a number (even a large number) of times doesn't constitute a "rivalry". In the present I probably agree with SportingFlyer that there is no real rivalry. Athel cb (talk) 17:31, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. SportingFlyer  T · C  16:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Massachusetts and New York.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete There's a rivalry between these teams? I don't see any sources to confirm that. And Adoil Descended (talk) 19:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete: I'm unable to find any sources discussing these two teams as having a rivalry. Per WP:NRIVALRY, sports rivalries aren't inherently notable. Let&#39;srun (talk) 20:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Leaning Keep: Teams were rivals in the Big East and as Eastern Independents, according to a reliable source following their move to the ACC. I would like to see more source discovery from the pre-internet, pre-ACC timeframe. PK-WIKI (talk) 22:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Not convinced by the sourcing. First source mentions a rivalry but is just a routine game preview, the second is a bit better but it is prefaced with "it could become the conferences hottest matchup" (in other words WP:CRYSTAL), while the final source mentions a rivalry and talks about the previous game the two teams played but doesn't provide the in-depth coverage of a rivalry I expect. Let&#39;srun (talk) 13:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The second source functionally says it's not a rivalry. SportingFlyer  T · C  13:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * *Associated Press, 1981, "The college football rivals, linked by a relatively short tradition..."
 * *The Boston Globe, 2001, ''"Rivalry a nice finishing touch — Orangemen at end is a golden idea
 * *The Boston Globe, 2014, "The heated rivalry between Boston College and Syracuse, a pair of old Big East and Eastern Independent football opponents..."


 * Weak delete per lack of SIGCOV. Of the three refs provided by PK-WIKI, only the 2014 Boston Globe ref provides limited coverage of the rivalry series as a whole and can possibly be considered SIGCOV; that alone is not enough for a GNG pass. The other two refs are WP:ROUTINE coverage, with little description of the teams as rivals.  Frank   Anchor  19:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


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