Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boston wine festival


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The result was   keep.  So Why  06:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Boston wine festival

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Non notable wine festival held in Boston Harbor Hotel. Full of peacock terms, read like a advert. References are merely rehashed PR puffery. Peacock and advert tags have been removed, by the creator but this article fails notability guidelines. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wine-related deletion discussions.  — Cliff smith  talk  16:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions.  — Cliff smith  talk  16:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep 20 year old festival. The nominator is complaining about style, nothing about notability and verifiability. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 03:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I'm finding discussion of this event on google news. Also, from someone who deals with promotional articles often I don't see this as having a promotional tone, especially since the notable points are well-sourced.  Them From  Space  04:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: So you would regard The Boston Wine Festival as a reliable source, even as a dead link? Or Meritage Restaurant? The vast majority of the Google hits mentioned above refer to one local paper - the Boston Globe and the content is obviously rehashed press releases,as is the artcile in Quarterly Review of Wine.  Using Google hits to establish notability is both lazy and inaccurate, see this item at RS noticeboard. To establish notability we need something better than this, e.g. reviews, critical commentary. The text in articles is so similar that it must come from a common source. The event is not unique, USA Today cites one in Aspen that has run for 24 years . Jezhotwells (talk) 09:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment You are engaging in original research when you speculate on the motivation of the publishers and that they have a hypothetical press release as the source. Even if there is a press release, the media chooses which ones to write articles about, of the thousands released each day. I have noticed the same suspicious editing in biographies, they all tend to use the same birth dates, and places of birth and death, and school attended ... well except those written by Alessandra Stanley. It must be plagiarism. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 00:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, but fix up Those who are interested, and it seems there are many on this page, please say how to make this page better! Halsmith555 (talk) 20:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Copyvio: portions of the article are WP:Copyvios:
 * For each Boston Wine Festival event, Chef Bruce invites wine makers to share their most exclusive wines, while he prepares a unique multi-course meal that complements the flavors of the wines being showcased. He has served as executive chef of the Boston Harbor Hotel for twenty years. Before he assumed leadership of the hotel, Chef Bruce served as executive chef of 21 Club in New York City, being the youngest person to have ever served as executive chef throughout that restaurant’s history. is a direct copy of - or extremely close paraphrase of.
 * Chef Bruce expanded the festival to the Maison Dupuy in New Orleans, resulting in the French Quarter Wine Festival. He will launch the Capital Wine Festival at The Fairfax at Embassy Row in Washington, D.C. in 2010. - same source.
 * In celebration of the 20th anniversary Chef Daniel Bruce brought back some of his favorite winemakers from previous years, along with a few new guest chefs - is a very close paraphrase of.
 * So the article relies on sources which re-hash Pyramid's (the hotel owners) publicity material, much of which is reproduced verbatim in this article, including the inaccurate claim that is the nation’s longest running wine and food pairing series.
 * User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ), kindly do not remove the tag again.  It is there so that that particular claim can be discussed on the article talk page. And the  tag on the claim about Bruce being the  youngest chef at 21 is there for a similar purpose. Removing justifiable tags is not a proper way to conduct discussions on Wikipedia. Jezhotwells (talk) 02:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.