Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bottom-up democracy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. (Please note that it is not a conflict of interest to support keeping an article you helped write, as long as this fact is made transparent.) Johnleemk | Talk 11:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Bottom-up democracy
POV fork and is well covered in other main articles --  max rspct  leave a message  13:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomimation. Covered in Soviet democracy, Worker's council, grassroots democracy etc -  max rspct   leave a message  13:22, 31 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Do not delete. Material is not covered in Soviet democracy, Worker's council, grassroots democracy etc  Soviet democracy is at best a controversial example of bottom-up democracy, worker's council is, at best, application of bottom-up democracy to factories.  Grassroots democracy is too vague.  Tribal and village government is left out especially in relation to federations of tribes and villages.  If it warrants reworking, that is one matter, but deletion -- no. Skovoroda 13:51, 31 May 2006 (UTC)


 * It's a conflict of interest to vote on an article you created. &mdash; Stevie is the man!  Talk 03:46, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Strong keep, I don't see anything POV (or anything else wrong) about this, it just needs to be tidied up a bit. - ulayiti (talk)  15:15, 31 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Found 714 entries by Google search for the phrase "bottom-up democracy" -- it must mean something, the article should attempt to tell us what it means. Clarification, not deletion is necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.20.192.126 (talk • contribs)


 * Based on contributions, I posit that this user is Skovoroda. &mdash; Stevie is the man!  Talk 01:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, User:68.20.192.126 is almost certainly User:Skovoroda, but I suspect this is just an innocent lack of awareness that occasionally he is not signed into the account. User:69.211.108.165 is probably the same thing. - David Oberst 22:19, 3 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete - or at least a complete rewrite with a clear idea of what is (and isn't) trying to be defined. See my notes in the Talk section for this nomination.  Also, the related article Top-down democracy is an even more likely candidate for deletion. - David Oberst 05:04, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin - I've put in an complete (skeletal) rewrite for the interim (see notes on Talk; a diff for the prior (problematic) version is here. I'd still vote delete mainly to make the whole mess go away, but if "bottom-up" is deemed in sufficient currency to need an article perhaps this can serve as a starter. David Oberst 05:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete (and also goes for Top-down democracy, which isn't nominated yet). These are terms that may be used to describe a democracy, but as far as I can tell, they aren't encyclopedic terms themselves.  If these are kept, then we may as well create articles for all possible terms preceded by qualifiers.  Let's create an article for Bushist fake democracy next! :)  &mdash;  Stevie is the man!  Talk 03:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment: Most (if not all) of the discussion below should be moved to the talk page. However, as a former politics student I can assure you that the term 'bottom-up democracy' is used among academics. It gets 65 hits on Google Scholar, which is not a lot, but it definitely shows that it's not a made-up term. - ulayiti (talk)  16:48, 3 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment Again i say it is covered in other articles and is surely non-notable as a separate term. --  max rspct  leave a message  21:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.