Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bouygues Télécom (disambiguation)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. — Aitias // discussion  00:12, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Bouygues Télécom (disambiguation)
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This disambiguation page has outlived its usefulness. Neither entity being disambiguated is known by this exact name anymore. The cell phone company spells its name without the diacritics now (though I'm not sure how that even happens), and the cycling team has another sponsor in its name - they're now known as Bbox Bouygues Telecom. So "Bouygues Télécom" is not really a useful dab. If a user types in "Bouygues Telecom" seeking the cycling team, there is an easily noticeable hatnote on Bouygues Telecom to navigate there (same is true even if they type in the diacritics). This disambiguation page has no utility and to get to it a user would have to type "Bouygues Télécom (disambiguation)" into the search box, which is extremely unlikely. Nosleep break my slumber 21:59, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Meant to also mention that it's unlikely that any editor will link to Bouygues Telecom meaning to link to the cycling team, since the cycling WikiProject has developed a new way of representing old cycling teams' names while linking to the correct current name, the ct template (and while users who aren't prolific WP:CYC contributors might not know about this template, they're also not likely to be working on articles about old events where the name Bouygues Télécom would be used - anyone who happens by during, say, this year's Tour de France, would be writing about Bbox Bouygues Telecom and link to that). But even if someone did errantly link to Bouygues Telecom or Bouygues Télécom meaning the cycling team, the hatnote still gets the reader there a step quicker than any disambiguation page would. Nosleep break my slumber 22:13, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Neither entity is known by this name anymore, so it's not a useful dab. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 22:14, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Move Bouygues Telecom to Bouygues Telecom (company), and move this to Bouygues Telecom. The mobile phone company is not primary to the cycling team of the same name (as named between 2005 and 2008 and as still known, although with a slightly different name) and so when people are searching for Bouygues Telecom, there's a good chance they're looking for the cycling team rather than the company. Neither is primary, so the DAB is useful at Bouygues Telecom. SeveroTC 22:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That should be a separate move discussion. -- JHunterJ (talk) 22:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes it's still only one click as Deor states, fair point. SeveroTC 13:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Disambiguations involving only two articles are better handled with hatnotes (per WP:DAB), as this one already is. Severo's suggestion would require folks searching for the cycling team, under its former name, to click through exactly as many pages (one) as they have to now. Deor (talk) 13:46, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 18:07, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect Bouygues Télécom to Bouygues Telecom as a R from title with diacritics (I see that is the current state). Disagree with Severo: the phone company can indeed be the primary topic, and the readers looking for the cycling team will reach that article in precisely the same number of clicks regardless. -- JHunterJ (talk) 22:28, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.