Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bovine Nightmares


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ✗ plicit  12:50, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Bovine Nightmares

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Non-notable band.  scope_creep Talk  23:19, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:26, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:26, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment. I updated the article with some recent information and more sources to support it. I am unsure how the article's references deem the band as non-notable as WP:NBAND says that "notability is not determined by what the article says, it's determined by how well the article does or doesn't support the things it says by referencing them to independent verification in reliable sources."  It also says that "Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria." Number One on the list is, "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." The referenced published works meet this requirement to the best of my knowledge which would negate "Non-notable band" as being the reason for deletion of this article.  If I am incorrect with understanding this requirement and definition, please explain why so I can understand.  Thank you. Xxxxxcanmanxxxxx (talk) 16:29, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * @Xxxxxcanmanxxxxx None of the sources referenced are meet all the criteria: YouTube, Twitter, and MusicBrainz are editable by anyone, so they are not considered reliable sources. The coverage in Metal Injection and Loudwire are both just release calendars, which is trivial coverage. They are not the "subject" of the articles in Metal Alliance, Science of Noise, and qrates, as those are all about a compilation album and the band gets no more than a sentence or two of coverage. That leaves Vents Magazine, IndiePulse Music, Essentially Pop, and NeuFutur Magazine, which are all of, at best, very questionable reliability (see BLOGS). Niftysquirrel (talk) 13:24, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:39, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The references you added, one from an very obscure magazine, has a youtube video of the band, dropping a new single New Single. The single at Single. has had 778 people watching it. The band is non notable and doesn't meet the requirements on WP:MUSICBIO or even WP:GNG.   scope_creep Talk  00:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:07, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete - Non notable. Fails WP:MUSICBIO, no evidence it meets any of the 12 criteria listed. Gentleman wiki (talk) 17:35, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - coverage is not significant enough to meet WP:MUSICBIO #1, per my analysis above. Seems to be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Niftysquirrel (talk) 13:32, 5 October 2021 (UTC)


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