Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Box Springs, California


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:43, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Box Springs, California

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This one is a bit of a puzzle in the topos, because the oldest ones place "Box Springs" at a point on the railroad which is labelled "Box Springs (siding)" in later maps; those maps show "Box Springs" at the point by the interchange entered in GNIS. But this article from a local newspaper says that Box Springs as a town was planned but never happened, which is consistent with what the maps show. So, not a notable settlement, or even a settlement at all. Mangoe (talk) 16:05, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:13, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:13, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - Cool little place outside LA but not notable enough for inclusion. Does have an elementary school. The Family Services Association does have a headquarters there but it's not called Box Springs, at least not now. -- A Rose Wolf ( Talk ) 17:39, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - per WP:GEOLAND or at the very least, redirect to Box Springs Mountain, which is named after Box Springs. As a hot springs (and cold springs) enthusiast, this AfD peaked my interest! A quick BEFORE found the citations below that could be added to the article. It does seem like a dying but definitely not dead community…according to the Moreno Valley City Manager’s office, part of the Moreno Valley gets it’s water supply from the Box Springs Mutual Water Company, fed by Box Springs, the Water Co was set up in the 1920s and currently distributes water to 430 acres with 600 hook-ups/connections. It sure seems to be a populated place, since there’s several real estate listings (not that that is considered appropriate for WP sourcing!), and it does have an elementary school: I don’t have time to go thru all my California history and hot/cold springs books today, but I’m relatively certain that if I searched for Moreno Valley history or Inland Empire history, or Riverside County history I’d find more. Here’s an article on Box Springs:  Also brief mentions: The Environmental Legacy of the UC Natural Reserve System by FIelder, Rumsey, and Wong. 2013 University of California Press - Pages 158-160 are the short chapter on the Box Springs Reserve, named after Box Springs. Also a brief mention in: Chapt. 18 of Southeastern Deserts Bioregion, by Brooks, Minnich and Mattchett. In the book: Fire in California’s Ecosystem.  and in The Western Riverside County Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan: Looking Forward After Ten Years, by Ouellette and Landry in the journal Natural Resources & Environment, Vol. 29, No. 3, SPECIES (Winter 2015), pp. 40-43 (4 pages)   This book from the 30s, "California in the 1930s", mentions in Chapt. 6 it has (or had?) a gasoline filling station and a garage. University of California Press.   I haven't done a newspaper search, but the above is enough to convince me that there IS a there, there, and the article should be kept per GEOLAND. Netherzone (talk) 21:32, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:11, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - I've improved the article - it now has eleven citations. There's more out there in archaeological records. Netherzone (talk) 11:30, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY. Bearian (talk) 23:16, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep – The article's been improved significantly since it was nominated. (In other words, per WP:HEY, a shortcut I tend to forget the meaning of within minutes of clicking on it.) BlackcurrantTea (talk) 05:52, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep – It does have credible sourcing, and there are enough other mentions of the name attached to a school, mountain, etc. There's enough sourced background information there to qualify this as a keep.  — Maile  (talk) 02:17, 18 January 2021 (UTC)


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