Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BoyWithUke (Musical Artist)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Draftify.. Maybe someone can ask User:Infowriter's Keyboard to stop moving this draft to main space (which he has done twice). It's now at Draft:BoyWithUke. Liz Read! Talk! 21:59, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

BoyWithUke (Musical Artist)

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Repeatedly contested draftspace moves. There is no evidence that this individual is independently notable from the already seemingly connected violinist Charles Yang, which a contributor for The Philadelphia Inquirer has already seemed to make the connection (subscription required). Jalen Folf  (talk)  18:20, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Massachusetts.  Jalen Folf   (talk)  18:20, 22 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I looked him up on Spotify and his most streamed song has over 400 million plays. So if notability is the argument, I'd vote to keep. But the article is in incredibly poor shape, so I would suggest draftifying. — VersaceSpace  🌃 19:00, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the article gets moved out of Draft space so I'm not sure how long it would remain a draft. Liz Read! Talk! 01:40, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete I don't think we recognize tiktok famous as notable here yet. Otherwise I don't see much we can use for GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 19:51, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * How about the Billboard articles and chart listings? If you search him up, he's in here and here (both recommended national WP:CHARTS, which meet the second WP:SINGER criterion) and he's been on multiple Billboard charts and articles. — V ORTEX  3427 (Talk!) 05:35, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Procedural Comment - This article's clunky title appears to be a way to get around another namespace. There was previously an article called simply BoyWithUke, which has a flip-flopping history and as of today is redirecting to the classical musician Charles Yang, apparently because he likes to make anonymous music under that handle. But is it the same guy? According to the article nominated here, this BoyWithUke was born in 2002, but Charles Yang was born in 1988. That might be misinformation. If they are the same guy, just Redirect this article to Charles Yang. If this BoyWithUke is someone different, he has been mentioned briefly in Billboard and Rolling Stone, but largely as a collaborator and not so much in his own right. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 20:19, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That redirect to Charles Yang has since been changed. Hopefully nobody will change it back. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 17:13, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment BoyWithUke was previously a redirect to Blackbear discography because Blackbear was featured on his single "IDGAF". I highly doubt that Charles Yang is BoyWithUke. Besides the obvious age difference, if you read the Philadelphia Inquirer article, the author cites Wikipedia as their source for the claim and Yang straight-up denies it in the following sentence. The information that says this in Yang's article was already deleted last month after a discussion on the talk page.
 * The sentence from the Inquirer the nom cites: "According to his Wikipedia bio, Yang has a secret alternate identity, known as “BoyWithUke,” whose music has the verbal density of hip-hop but with a folksy ukulele accompaniment (Yang swears he knows nothing about this performer)."
 * (I don't have a subscription, I just did the old "click X before the paywall loads up" trick) — V ORTEX  3427 (Talk!) 05:27, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I think this Billboard column is significant and shows that this 19 year old is a different person than the 34 year old Yang. Liz Read! Talk! 01:46, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Draftify I was working on this article (EDIT: I was the sole contributor of the draft besides another guy who worked on it before the draft was speedily deleted for promotion. I asked the admin who deleted it to restore it and deleted most of the content aside from the infobox and discography) before somebody else moved it to mainspace. I believe he is notable as he has shown up on several national chart listings e.g. BPI. However, it isn't ready for publication (those half-finished sentences and bare URLs I was saving for possible references were mine), and I have no idea why it was moved prematurely or who moved it.
 * As for whether Yang is BoyWithUke, the Philadelphia Inquirer article cites Wikipedia for the claim. In the article, Yang himself denied any connection with this artist. The information was likely misinformation (for example, the obvious age difference) and was already deleted from Yang's article for months after a talk page discussion. — V ORTEX  3427 (Talk!) 04:47, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, see my two other comments. — V ORTEX  3427 (Talk!) 05:35, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Draftify - I'm not a fan of draftifying an article that already has a contentious history, nor because the subject might be more notable someday. But this time is might be the best solution. Clean it up there, find more evidence that the musician is notable, and don't bring it back to mainspace until it's ready. In fact, perhaps tougher protection is necessary to prevent yet another unmerited jump to mainspace. Also, fix that older redirect that is currently going to Blackbear Discography, which is likely to conflict with the present "...(Musical Artist)" version in the near future. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 17:20, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.