Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brandobaris


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was merge and redirect. Carlosguitar 05:22, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Brandobaris

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Article does not pass notability guidelines in WP:FICT, no reliable secondary sources, in universe context only, no real world notability, sources are all D&D universe sources Pilotbob 20:12, 30 October 2007 (UTC) Pilotbob 20:12, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Subdolous 20:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge and/or redirect into List of Dungeons & Dragons deities BOZ 20:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * KeepThis proposal is Cruftcruft, and a result of Pilotbob wishing to disrupt Wikipedia to make a point.--Robbstrd 21:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Again, you are accusing me of disrupting Wikipedia. Remember WP:AGF and WP:CIA.  My concerns regarding this article are legitimate and accusing me of cruftcruft does nothing to address them.  Remember, per WP:FICT "fictional concepts are deemed notable if they have received substantial coverage in reliable secondary sources.  For articles about fictional concepts, "reliable secondary sources" cover information such as sales figures, critical and popular reception, development, cultural impact, and merchandise; this information describes the real-world aspects of the concept, so it is "real-world content"."   This article contains no real world context at all and does not meet the standard of notability for fiction.  Pilotbob 22:09, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Your edit history shows that you're less interested in making meaningful contributions to Wikipedia than you are in nominating articles you dislike for deletion. Constant criticism without any effort to make things better looks like disruption to me.--Robbstrd 23:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * My only concern here is that this article does not meet Wikipedia guidelines, not WP:IDONTLIKEIT. This is not an appropriate forum to engage in an argument regarding your baseless accusations. Pilotbob 04:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I note that Robbstrd's has not disclosed the fact that he is a major contributor to this article. It is clear to me that he chosen to make these unjustified accusations to discredit the nominator of "his" article. I would suggest that he owes the nominator an appology for lack of civility, and his comments be struck from the record on the grounds that he is POV pushing. --Gavin Collins 10:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: Not sure if adding categories & references define me as a "major contributor." I'm simply more interested in improving articles, rather than WP:DICK.--Robbstrd 19:49, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment When someone arguing to keep an article has nothing to offer in its defense but incivil attacks on the deletion nominator, it does not generally bode well for the article. References would be far more impressive and effective. Edison 13:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment The article has six references which is plenty for a stub.
 * Comment Surely "Cruftcruft" is no more an argument than "Cruft" is? BreathingMeat 20:04, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Merge into List of Dungeons & Dragons deities. When there's an obvious article for the larger class, that's the obvious thing to do. —Quasirandom 04:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * N.B.: List of Forgotten Realms deities as well. Powers T 21:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletions.   --Gavin Collins 08:49, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge, per Quasirandom -- Simon Cursitor 12:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect per BOZ and Quasirandom. Pinball22 13:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge per Quasirandom. The article has some refs, but they appear to be from sources published by the franchise owner, and thus are not "independent" as WP:N demands. Edison 13:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete There is nothing non-fictional to be said about this topic. It is completely non-notable outside of D&D playing. BreathingMeat 20:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge as per BOZ Edward321 05:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Marge and redirect per BOZ. --Polaron | Talk 16:14, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * delete per BreathingMeat. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 22:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect and Merge into List of Dungeons & Dragons deities. Colonel Warden 11:37, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * N.B.: List of Forgotten Realms deities as well. Powers T 15:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Impossible to establish notability per WP:FICT without secondary sources. Doctorfluffy 19:33, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge into List of Dungeons & Dragons deities. --Brewcrewer 17:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.