Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brandon Roberts


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The result was Delete-- JForget 23:44, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Brandon Roberts

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Unreferenced BLP of a NN author, autobiography Toddstreat1 13:54, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as not-notable and uncited. Dylan 15:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as lacking reliable sources establishing notability. /Blaxthos 15:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: I have added external sources, including the National Library of Australia website. However, if it is just vanity press, then DELETE. Seahamlass 17:13, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: If I'm reading the library links correctly, they're just saying that the book was published and cataloged. The other link is an advertisement from his publisher.  I don't think either count as WP:Reliable Sources sources to assess WP:Notability. Toddstreat1 17:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions.  -- Mattinbgn\talk 22:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete Zeus Publications claims that its model of "subsidy publishing" is not the same as vanity publishing, but it all looks pretty similar to me. The name is too common to search on, but the book gets ten Google hits, none of which offer significant coverage in independent sources. Catalogue entries which simply testify to the book's existence can't be called significant, publisher's blurb can't be called independent. See Notability for more on notability guidelines. Iain99Balderdash and piffle 23:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. As per Iain99, Zeus Publications is a vanity press (regardless of what it calls its business model) and thus the book doesn't provide any notability for its author.  With respect to it being listed by the National Library of Australia -- I don't know how they do it in Australia, but my understanding is that in the U.S. and Canada, publishers are required to send two copies of every book published to a national library.  (I could be wrong.)  Anyway, I doubt it adds notability. Accounting4Taste 00:28, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Accounting4taste is right. Every publisher in Australia is required to send copies of the books that they publish to the National Library of Australia. Our article states "Australian copyright law requires that a copy of every book published in Australia be deposited with the National Library of Australia." The sources are catalogue items from the National Library and his publishers website. Google News Archives has no records for "Brandon Roberts" Zeus. . Capitalistroadster 03:00, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Sc straker 00:06, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
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