Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brasstown Creek


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There is no consensus to delete, the merge proposal and discussion of its target can continue on the talk page if so desired. (non-admin closure) Szzuk (talk) 08:50, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Brasstown Creek
The article most definitely doesn't meet the notability guideline also known as WP:GNG. Citybuild122 (talk) 05:02, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep per WP:NGEO: "Named natural features are often notable, provided information beyond statistics and coordinates is known to exist. This includes mountains, lakes, streams, islands, etc." This valid stub at Brasstown Creek, officially recognized as a landform by GNIS, has reliable sources for location, as well as name origin.– Gilliam (talk) 05:23, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to cite a couple of things to remember. WP:EXISTENCE: "Just because a subject exists in this world does not mean it is automatically notable." Just because a creek exists in the world, doesn't mean I will make a wikipedia page about it. Should I go make a wikipedia page about the oak tree in my yard? Taking what you said from your own mouth, Gilliam. "Named natural features are often notable..." That is true. They are often notable. However, this just honestly isn't. That refers me back to the WP:EXISTENCE quote. Per the WP:GNG as well, the article has no news articles or any significant coverage.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Citybuild122 (talk • contribs) 05:38, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Geographical features are notable-thank you-RFD (talk) 12:14, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd like you to consider something different. I believe a merge with Brasstown, North Carolina is appropriate. According to the notability guideline on geographic features under named natural places, it says it is often notable. Not always notable like you have said. Here is a quote from it: "If a Wikipedia article cannot be developed using known sources, information on the feature can instead be included in a more general article on local geography." In this case, it is true. The author was only able to come up with three sentences, one of which is contains a claim that can't be supported. Therefore, I will refer you here: Low sentence articles Citybuild122 (talk) 17:36, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge I agree with Citybuild122's proposal. The information level is very questionable and certainly a strong case can be made for it not falling into the "often" mentioned in WP:NGEO. That said, clearly geographical features are an area that consensus has a strong view in preserving information so long as minimal standards can be met. Merging it with the (itself very minimal) Brasstown, Georgia Brasstown, North Carolina stub would be a good solution in my view. Nosebagbear (talk) 21:44, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge if I didn't formally state it. Citybuild122 (talk) 22:23, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:17, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Georgia (U.S. state)-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:17, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of North Carolina-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:17, 5 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment - This body of water is in at least three counties in two states. There are at least two different suggestions for merger above, even though the people making them seem to think they are agreeing, but they have picked different states. I'm not sure there is an appropriate merge target; I think it would only muddy the waters, so to speak. Lady  of  Shalott  02:11, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - I say Brasstown, North Carolina. Seeing as that is where the creek actually starts. Citybuild122 (talk) 04:06, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment - My fault on that, sorry, just tagged the wrong one. I agree with North Carolina as a merge target
 * Keep per WP:GEOLAND. A search for sources is a bit confusing since there are two Brasstown Creeks and the other one has a few waterfalls. I do not support a merge. SportingFlyer  talk  20:48, 7 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.