Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brave New World in popular culture


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Sr13 04:07, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Brave New World in popular culture

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Trivia collection. Unacceptable per WP:FIVE. --Eyrian 19:00, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong delete Rid wiki of all these humiliating lists. Bulldog123 19:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as a directory of loosely associated topics and trivia dump. Otto4711 21:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: The current content of this article is unsourced and loosely-associated trivia. However, Brave New World (which has a good section on adaptations and related works) links to this In Pop Cult article with "The cultural influence of Brave New World has been extensive and most modern dystopic fiction owes at least something to the influence of the novel". If this claim can be sourced and tied to specific works, then an article about those works could be a keeper. Canuckle 21:19, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per my comments on its fellows. Golfcam 22:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete' Again, trivia-filled and barely sourced.--JForget 22:53, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete There is no need for trivia in a encyclopedia.Marlith 00:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - a short article, or section could be written about this topic. However, this article is a laundry list of trivia.  --Haemo 01:43, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete If a vote to delete or keep is based on the idea of "save" or "get rid of" ALL pop culture lists, that's not much of a reason. Each list should be judged individually.  Some are quite good.  Some are, I agree, "humiliating" in that they take a great film or book and make cheap references to every time it was alluded to in (usually) a TV show.  This one is in the latter category, tossing in almost every time someone said B.N.W. in the course of a film or TV show.  Eliminate those from the list, and it's a pretty short list.  Mandsford 02:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete there are apparently no WP:RSes that this "pop culture" phenomenon is notable. Carlossuarez46 04:04, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Trivia collection/WP:5 - List of every time ________ is mentioned on TV/songs/movies Corpx 04:09, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Loosely associated trivia collection. Crazysuit 05:14, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete This is indeed an influential book, and there might well be scope for an article about its influence. However, one can't merely compile a list of unrelated factoids and claim them as evidence of its influence - that would be original research, specifically a synthesis. An article which began with something like "Brave New World is a very influential novel (reference)" and then launched into a laundry list of trivia would be scarcely better. Rather, it would be necessary to find sources which discuss the book's influence, and then provide meaningful discussion of the topic, perhaps with reference to some of the works cited by the examples. In short this isn't even the beginning of a good article - it would have to be rewritten from scratch, and possibly renamed, to be of any encyclopaedic value. Iain99 08:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. If there's anything worth merging to Brave New World, it should be. Titanium Dragon 23:30, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Many of these are specifically about the theme, and in most cases there will be reviews to show it. But unreferenced or inadequately referenced is not a reason for deletion. I understand loosely associated somewhat differently from the way it is being used in these discussions-- to be a list of songs recording in April are loosely associated, or a list of books &c that all have the word Love in their title. Things all primarily  about a subject is a close association--that's more or less what is meant by association--things can be closely associated for having the same author or participant or producer--or subject. Same for "trivia" being about a common subject is not trivial. DGG (talk) 00:27, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The things on this list are not primarily about Brave New World. Many of them don't even mention BNW; they are instead things that incorporate some element that might also have appeared in some form in BNW, or use a word that BNW also uses, or has a name that has "Brave New" in it. Otto4711 04:29, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed. The astute reader will note that half of these very well might refer to the same place that Huxley got the name, i.e. Shakespeare's The Tempest. Of course, you'd never know because they're all uncited. --Eyrian 13:24, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete all %SUBJECT% in popular culture lists, they are nothing but trivia and violate the five pillars of Wikipedia as well. Burntsauce 18:53, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.