Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BreakTudo Awards


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Even disregarding all the suspicious votes, there is not enough support here for deletion. – bradv  🍁  05:15, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

BreakTudo Awards

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Related to BreakTudo website. Also not relevant. Article also deleted in other languages, as in the native version.

PS: This proposal extends to related articles. J talk 13:32, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Brazil-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:22, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 17:37, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 17:37, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 17:37, 7 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - Non-notable awards. Clear attempt to use Wikipedia for propaganda.-- SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 20:21, 7 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep I vote to keep this article on Wikipedia. I am a publisher on Brazilian Wikipedia and in fact the article does not exist on wikipedia in Portuguese, however, I noticed that there is a plot in Brazilian wikipedia to block the article and this same plot has been working to eliminate this page here on wikipedia in English. This editor who marked the elimination page is constantly blocked on the Portuguese wikipedia due to vandalism. Today, he did several vandalism actions on the pages of Anitta, Pabllo Vittar and other Brazilian artists, he is not a reliable editor. Regarding the relevance of the Brazilian award, I can say as a Brazilian, that the award is very important in the country. The event has already been featured in several major Brazilian portals such as Jornal Extra  from the Globo group and Todateen  of Uol magazine and several other portals, just search Google, outside the country, the award also has very expressive media coverage in several languages, having already been featured in vehicles with CNN, Yahoo, RTV 21, MSN, Telegrafi, Jawa Pos, Allkpop, among many others. The conspiracy charge is because this same group of Brazilian wikipedists came together to eliminate the page in Spanish, using false justifications. In the same Brazilian wikipedia, there are pages for awards such as Capricho Awards, Prêmio Contigo Online and Prêmio Quem Online, which are mere online polls and which receive coverage only in the vehicle that promotes them, differently from the BreakTudo Awards that today are really big in the country. I ask the attention of the wikipedists English natives for this fact this group of Brazilian wikipedists is acting, in Brazil they are the same ones that bar influencers like Leo Picon and Nah Cardoso. The award is publicized by several Brazilian artists and nothing that is not really relevant would get such coverage. It is clear that it is an act of vandalism and boycott, something that harms Brazilian artists, who struggle for recognition in the world of music. SHE Pabllo Vittar (talk) 21:50, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * First of all, the fact that the editor who nominated this article for deletion was blocked on pt.WP doesn't matter here. Second, your accusations against him are personal attacks which can result in sactions against you. I ask you to, either, prove your accusations with diffs or strike your remarks. Third, this article was deleted on pt.WP for the same reason they are being deleted him, because it's a brazen attempt to use the WP as means for promotion. Fourth, none of the refs on the article are reliable, indepent or cover the subject in depth. Fifth, there are no "plot" here. The only plot here is a company trying to use WP for propaganda.-- SirEdimon  Dimmi!!! 22:54, 7 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep I too vote that we keep the article. I looked into it and was able to find coverage online from third parties. These awards are newer but do seem to be notable in Brazil. I can add more to the article too. FanDePopLatino (talk) 23:41, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Could you please indicate which coverage are in-deph and from independent and reliable sources? I'm from Brazil and I can read portuguese and I don't see these "third parties" coverage you are talking about.-- SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 23:49, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure. These are some of the ones that I found: here's one, here's another, here's another one, and here's one more. FanDePopLatino (talk) 00:34, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Tudo Information is another spammer that is appearing in the project. BlastingNews is a collaborative website. J  talk 05:12, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * As said above, these sources are neither reliable nor independent. Most of it are just paid content on obscure media outlets.-- SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 22:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I have been a user of Brazilian wikipedia for 6 years too and I vote for we keep the article. The award is notable in Brazil and here is sufficient coverage to maintain the article. Some sources here 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 EmersonGuui (talk) 00:49, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. The arguments given by the users above clearly show that this is a notable award in Latin America. Batmanthe8th (talk) 04:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * These is not notable in Latin America, this why it was deleted in Pt.WP and not even exist in Spanish WP.-- SirEdimon Dimmi!!! 22:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * about the "notable award in Latin America", I suggest you check this. J  talk 10:42, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , Even with my minimal Spanish skills, I got a chuckle out of how Google Translate turned "Bórrese" into "Delete yourself" :-) -- RoySmith (talk) 12:38, 15 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep It is certainly a notorious award in Brazil. As mentioned above, there is a lot of coverage from many reliable and independent sources, I vote to keep this page on wikipedia. Raonyphillips (talk)  02:29, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Lots of keep !votes from suspiciously new users, would benefit from further input.
 * I'm a Lusophone's sysop and CheckUser. I attest that the BreakTudo Awards theme was a constant target of puppets, abusing recreations disrespecting the community's decision. So I am not surprised to see new accounts being created to defend maintenance. About the award, this is more media than notorious. Therefore, there will obviously be numerous sources addressing the topic. In contrast, the overwhelming part of the sources comes down to rubbish from entertainment portals and many publish paid content . Another part of the sources are "lists" of nominees/winners or report a particular celebrity competing. These, by the way, cover more personality than the prize. A brief analysis of some of the sources cited here in the discussion:
 * Observatório de Música: it belongs to a "network" of entertainment sites, they publish advertisements and make "news" based on posts from Instagram and Twitter, as appears to be the case since it quotes a tweet.
 * Extra: blog hosted on the domain, passes content paid naturally.
 * Blastingnews: collaborative
 * TodaTeen: says that Manu Gavassi was nominated, talks more about the singer than about the award.
 * Click Paraná: advertising, see "Por Assessoria"
 * Blogue
 * Countless sources that only speak of the nominee
 * CNN: mention, reports that the group won the award and continues talking about the group.
 * Yahoo: collaborative base fan transfer.
 * Finally, there is no first-rate source in Brazilian journalism that supports any importance of the award. Examples: Folha SP, Estado de SP, G1, Gazeta and Zero Hora. The award is only mentioned in worthless entertainment portals. Some mentions there and here, some repercussions about nominees and winners... and is that significant coverage from reliable sources? Do not. It has already been eliminated in Portuguese, Spanish and Korean and everything is part of a "saga", according to the editor "SHE Pabllo Vittar". Honestly, you need to have a lower reasoning ability to discuss issues that already begin in this way. Edmond Dantès  d'un message? 12:40, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 21:03, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

There are reliable sources that mention this award. UOL's Observatório da Música, Globo's Extra and UOL's Toda Teen. Extra is a major news source, owned by the giant Globo. Toda Teen and Observatório da Música are maintained by UOL, a big news sources on the internet. I don't know if that should be enough to keep the article, and I don't know if they prove the award is notorious enough, so that's why I won't vote. But there are reliable sources that talk about it, no doubt. Mateussf (talk) 21:37, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep The coverage from trusted sources is quite significant, and moreover the tabloids usually talk more about the artist than about the award itself, it is normal. The award is notorious in Brazil, this is clear. I am Brazilian and a fan of pop culture, I can speak properly about the notoriety of the awards. Predofarofa (talk) 01:20, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

It is difficult to start a clean discussion when the page continues to be invaded by suspicious accounts. J talk 04:34, 22 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Private messages are being sent on Facebook asking for support to keep. This page has already become the target of meat puppetry. Edmond Dantès  d'un message? 23:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - Given the likely metapuppetry, would it be worth notifying this to the administrator noticeboard? Foxnpichu (talk) 14:42, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

On the 19th of this month I was editing the Maisa Silva page and there I ended up on the BreakTudo Awards page, I saw that it was marked for elimination by consensus and I decided to vote for keeping it. Since I believe this award is indeed notorious to be maintained in the project. I didn't get any message to cast my vote here, I'm sorry to be accused of that. I barely use Facebook, just for the record. My vote is not part of meat puppetry. A user above wants to maintain his point of view on the discussion saying that this is not notorious, I understand that he wants this, but making this type of accusation to me is very disrespectful. My vote remains "keep" per WP:GNG. Predofarofa (talk) 01:43, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * @ Sorry about that. I wasn’t suggesting that you in particular were a meatpuppet, I just thought that some of the activity in this AfD appears suspicious. Foxnpichu (talk) 14:25, 24 September 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.