Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Breeze Song Gao (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Merge discussions can continue outside AfD. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 11:01, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Breeze Song Gao
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Article about a fairly small shopping mall, sourced largely to promotional materials and others lacking depth and/or independence. Mccapra (talk) 06:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Shopping malls-related deletion discussions. Mccapra (talk) 06:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Mccapra (talk) 06:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Taiwan-related deletion discussions. Mccapra (talk) 06:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment: In the previous AfD discussion last month, I suggested merging with Breeze Center to create a single article about the chain. That's what zhwiki does. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 07:13, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Pinging all participants from the previous AfD discussion, which was closed as "no consensus": —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 07:15, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Keep Here are the sources included in the article:     These sources provide significant coverage of the shopping mail's origins and its tenants and amenities. In addition, this article from the Vogue and this article from Hong Kong Economic Times Holdings's U Lifestyle discuss the mall. There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Breeze Song Gao to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 10:51, 22 August 2021 (UTC) </li></ul>
 * Comment I don’t accept that those sources do in fact provide independent and in depth coverage. Taiwan News, Apple Daily News and tw-tw are launch pr for the mall regurgitated as churnalism. The best source here seems to be the cardu.com piece which provides some depth and critical comparison, though what its standing is as a reliable source, I don’t know. I mean what we learn from these sources is mainly that 86 models danced around the the new store for an hour and there’s a special promotion on Kumquat Pickled Raw Salmon to mark the opening. You’d get this kind of nonsense for the opening of every new garden centre. It doesn’t show notability. Mccapra (talk) 11:31, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Breeze Center is about a shopping center in Songshan District, Taipei, Taiwan, while Breeze Song Gao is about a shopping mall in Xinyi District, Taipei, Taiwan. They likely are part of the same chain. I don't think Breeze Song Gao can be merged to Breeze Center without there being undue weight issues. I would be fine with a merge to a single article covering all branches of the chain but as a chain article does not currently exist, I support retention over deletion since the subject meets Notability. Cunard (talk) 10:51, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  08:29, 29 August 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Merger of this and related articles into a single one about a chain of malls has been proposed; relisting to allow discussion of this option.
 * Keep agree per Cunard. VocalIndia (talk) 18:14, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (Talk) 14:14, 5 September 2021 (UTC)


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