Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brendan Malcolm Sleight


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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 19:11, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Brendan Malcolm Sleight

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fails WP:ANYBIO and WP:GNG. The BEM is one of the lower decorations in the UK it is 36th out of 41 decorations so in itself I do not believe that is confers sufficient notabilty. All the sources are passing mentions or quotes from the subject in an official capacity Dom from Paris (talk) 15:31, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Dom from Paris (talk) 15:31, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Dom from Paris (talk) 15:31, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dom from Paris Thanks for the message/prompt I been on holiday, just catching up. I know I have five days to respond, but I need a good hour to sit down and digest. I am quite new to this - so please bear with me ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MertonMoments (talk • contribs) 13:20, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

This article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Emmanuel has just been approved, another one of my new articles. Also has BEM - any hints and advice how I get this artcles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Malcolm_Sleight to the same standard ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MertonMoments (talk • contribs) 13:25, 9 February 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relist #1
 * Comment. The BEM is certainly not sufficient alone to prove notability. We usually assume someone needs at least a CBE (three levels above) for that. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:13, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nakon  04:47, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * The BEM is not listed on the reference given - https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/56878/supplement/3351 BBC - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11990088 gives a list a clearer explaination)
 * Better description https://www.gov.uk/honours/types-of-honours-and-awards
 * CBE are prominent but lesser role at national level,
 * Lots of non-CBEs listed such as OBE and MBE
 * service to the local community. (So hence not a notable as CBE), must have made a signifiant difference
 * NB - I have also added https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremiah_Emmanuel Should this be marked for deletions, or deletion discussion ?
 * Similar example from 2015 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Cutler
 * Similar example from 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Dazeley + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Rimmington
 * From 2016 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonjo_Heuerman — Preceding unsigned comment added by MertonMoments (talk • contribs) 15:11, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Rimmington is clearly notable as a footballer. The others, however, may well not meet notability standards. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:16, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
 * From local newspaper in Merton, I cross-referenced with other searches, including two national newspapers then used the full name in the article, although more search results are available as the shorter name. I note that some of my other articles have been change to use the short name (i am newbie). Which is the right way around - feedback welcome ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MertonMoments (talk • contribs) 15:23, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
 * We use common names for article titles. If the shortened name is the name by which the person is commonly known then that's what we use. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:25, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I learned something - how do I change this (and others?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MertonMoments (talk • contribs) 15:28, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Click on the move tab at the top of the article. But please note that people who have only local or minor significance like Sleight and Emmanuel are rarely notable enough for Wikipedia. See WP:BIO. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:31, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ansh 666 18:56, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - first of all, the article is a stub - normally a stub doesn't warrant deletion but what's in the stub article doesn't constitute WP:GNG. Second, BEMs can be easy to get - pretty sure someone could get one just by helping people evacuate a building during a notable fire in Britain. Unless he has some truly noteworthy awards, this article should be slated for deletion. Kirbanzo (talk) 19:14, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Just as a point of info, the BEM hasn't been awarded for gallantry since 1974. The BEM is awarded for valuable services to the community, but less valuable (and often more local) than those for which the Order of the British Empire (MBE or higher) is awarded. Of course, this is terribly subjective, but it's still not notable enough for an article, any more than the MBE or OBE are. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:16, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


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