Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brett Maly


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The result was delete. Of those arguing based on the notability guidelines, there is a consensus that the article fails the notability guideline due to a lack of significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Davewild (talk) 11:01, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Brett Maly

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Subject fails WP:GNG. He has appeared on the series Pawn Stars as an infrequently appearing expert in 12 of the 386 episodes that have aired. Other than mentions of his role in the series, there is very little out there about the individual, certainly not enough to establish notability.  Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 12:04, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
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Concerning the deletion of Brett Maly's page. I have worked hard on this article and it is my first.

I have chosen Brett because of his local and regional notoriety (Las Vegas, NV USA) as well as his global exposure on the Pawn Stars TV series from the History channel.

I completely respect you concern and I have read the guidelines and I believe he certainly does qualify for inclusion.

Some of his recent work, which I follow, include the appraisal of a recently discovered Leonardo da Vinci sculpture that is being made into a documentary staring Brett as narrator and art expert.

Please consider these assessments in your decision or kindly ask from me any proof you would need to help strengthen my case and keep this important and developing article in Wikipedia. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tradernet (talk • contribs) 20:22, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Based on available sources, Maly doesn't seem to have any notability outside of his infrequent appearances on Pawn Stars. I did have to remove some content from the article because it was copied almost word for word from IMDB (which is not considered to be a reliable source), and because of this constituted a copyright violation. I cannot find any evidence of the documentary that you mention, and it was not mentioned in the article. His involvement in the appraisal was mentioned in one source, but that's all it is, a mention. Items of art are appraised every day, that's not a sign of notability. Who was the person who appraised the Mona Lisa for example? -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 04:27, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


 * We may never know who appraised The Mona Lisa because their page may have been removed from Wikipedia. Joking, of course, but more to the point is the documentary that has a trailer already produced and can be viewed at http://thelostleonardo.com.  I have not updated this information because of the status of this page.  I am new to this even if I have made minor edits over the past 8 years.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tradernet (talk • contribs) 07:42, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Google shows nothing on this documentary, which isn't even mentioned at IMDB. It doesn't establish notability. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 13:26, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * The documentary is brand new and has just finished pre-production. Also, the content you removed from this page was my own.  I wrote it.  It was also posted on IMDB (not by me) without my permission; which I would have gladly gave.  They "borrowed" my writing, not the other way around.
 * Please, just give this article a chance. It's not contrived nor serving some furtive motive.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tradernet (talk • contribs) 17:10, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


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 * Keep Made a notable appearance on a notable show SilverSurfingSerpent (talk) 19:38, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Recurring characters are not generally considered notable. WP:ENT specifically requires that the person has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions. This person has had only 12 recurring appearances in Pawn Stars and one appearance in another program. This does not make his appearances notable. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 20:07, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Sources suggest a local presence only, not significant coverage as required by WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:42, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Brett is quite notable on Pawn Stars and other sources and has appeared on many more episodes that listed on IMDB.(talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:56, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Other than the episodes listed on IMDB, what episodes has he been in? A recurring character is not generally considered notable. What other sources does he appear in that satisfy WP:GNG? -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 20:07, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Art apraiser who appeared on a show without generating widespread secondary coverage. The existence of this article is an example of presentism in Wikipedia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:24, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep He has had over 40 appearances on Pawn Stars not 12 as stated on IMDB.  I have the episode list if anyone cares.User:tradernet
 * It doesn't matter how many appearances he has made, notability is not determined by screentime, although I'm yet to see evidence of these additional appearances. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 12:48, 30 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete per the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. I searched for sources and was able to find primarily passing mentions in Las Vegas media, though there were passing mentions in other media as well. Examples:This article from the U.K. edition of The Huffington Post: "They include American Brett Maly, who has been used by Las Vegas billionaire Steve Wynn to value masterpieces from Picasso, da Vinci and Salvador Dali. Brett last month sent Andy a report saying the drawing was worth $2.1million - but has also told him it could fetch 10 times that."This articleWebCite from Good Morning America: "'I was told by Brett Maly that this is the earliest example of pop art and Warhol did it in when he was 11 years old,' Fields said. Brett Maly is an art appraiser for Las Vegas-based fine art dealer, Art Encounter. Fields showed Maly the drawing shortly after he bought it at a Las Vegas garage sale in 2010. Maly valued the drawing at $2.4 million, according to Fields."There is insufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Brett Maly to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 04:30, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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