Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian D. Beaudreault


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The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 20:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Brian D. Beaudreault

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I contested a PROD on this article on the basis that it was unclear to me whether he should be considered notable or not. Presumably his rank is not high enough to warrant automatic inclusion. However, he was the commander of an important military unit (~2500 people) during a time of war (Iraq). Is that enough? I don't know, so I am neutral for now ThaddeusB (talk) 17:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
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 * Strong KEEP I suspect that most colonels (and Naval Captains) who have commanded in wartime merit pages. On Beaudreault in particular, there is plenty of press coverage, especially of the Somalia operation.  Someone just needs to put the sources up. I added a couple.Historicist (talk) 19:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete SImply being a commander of a unit isn't enough notability. Without having been strongly associated with some sort of notable event, incident, or operation, being the commnder just doesn't make a person notable enough (there are plenty of military press releases on just about every single unit in the Corps, but that doesn't make every commander notable either) This individual also lacks any notable awards or significant coverage based on any merits besides the unit he lead. In short, I don't see what distinguishes this individual over the thousands of other Marine officers and unit commanders.  bahamut0013  words deeds   05:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - agree with the above. Command of a regiment alone is not enough to establish notability.  If he pins on General then he might rate but short of that I would say it has to go.--Looper5920 (talk) 16:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Not important for history yet. Also: . Algébrico (talk) 18:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete  unless he has done something special in the position. The sources seem to be routine coverage about the unit. DGG (talk) 04:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't believe he meets the criteria laid down in WP:MILMOS, for commanders "People who commanded a substantial body of troops (such as an army or fleet, or a significant portion of one) in combat." This has generally been held to occur at the level of divisional command (sometimes brigade if the action itself was particularly notable), so usually MAJGEN or higher before qualifying as notable on these grounds.  |Nor does he seem to meet "People who are the primary topic of one or more published secondary works", unlike some colonels/lieutenant-colonels.  David Underdown (talk) 10:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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