Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian Karjala


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. seresin | wasn't he just...? 20:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Brian Karjala

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This article looks like it just restates info available on a personal website. I can't really see why this person is notable. Also, it looks like every paragraph starts with "he claims", without listing any secondary sources. Tnxman307 (talk) 14:33, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, no independent sources to establish notability. Powers T 19:06, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Brian Karjala is a whisleblower who reported fraud inside the mega-ministry Focus on the Family. You can verify Karjala's employment by contacting the human resources department at Focus. You can verify that he was not fired. By contacting Focus you can also verify that the organization has doubts about the Tom Papania audio testimony it once sold. This Wikepedia article is relaying disinformation and takes Karjala out of context and doesn't accurately portray the real reporting and ministry of Karjala, nor does it cite the sources for information Karjala quotes on his web pages. Examine the Tom Papania Wikepedia article to find the source of the disinformation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Truthteller0717 (talk • contribs)
 * Do you have any sources that don't involve conducting original research? Powers T 12:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete The sources are weak. The content of the article fails to establish that this person has done anything notable other than to make a few allegations of fraud and conspiracy, which is nothing special. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 03:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Someone has slandered Karjala by claiming he was fired from Focus on the Family. Why is that unverified claim not yet removed? Reporting fraud within a major "evangelical" organization is not notable? This from the Wikepedia folks who give space to trivial celebrity figures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.187.232 (talk) 01:50, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Being reported as having been fired from Focus on the Family is hardly slander. As for notability, if you can find reliable, independent sources that indicate notability, please provide them.  Powers T 02:08, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Writing that someone was fired for behavioral issues is slander when it is not true. I guess truth is irrelevant to Wikepedia. Just delete the article. It was created by an enemy of Brian Karjala. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.187.232 (talk) 02:36, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Look, if you're really concerned about possible slander, drop a note at Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. This isn't the best forum for such concerns.  This is here just to decide if we need an article on this person.  If you feel we do, then just provide some reliable sources that indicate notability.  That's all you have to do.  Powers T 13:03, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


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