Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian M. Hughes


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 19:42, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Brian M. Hughes

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

Low-profile individual who does not meet the guidelines for WP:GNG. He is the son of former NJ Governor Richard J. Hughes, but per WP:BIORELATED, this does not make him notable. According to WP:POLITICIAN, only "major local political figures who have received significant press coverage" are notable. "Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability." Press coverage appears to be entirely absent. Ambrosiaster (talk) 03:28, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 06:03, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 06:03, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment - County executive is an odd position, so before I started debating the differences of that vs mayor, I thought it easier to consider "would I vote delete if he was a mayor?". Mercer County has a population of c. 365,000 - hardly small. I'd be inclined to say WP:POLOUTCOMES would support keeping a mayor in those conditions.


 * Thus, next stop - considering the role. His role is the elected variant of the position. This means he is both functioning as the chief executive/administrative officer of the county for the freeholder (legislative) board, but also has the right to veto their ordinances - so he is more than just a senior administrative position. I would say this position is similar enough to consider like a mayor in lieu of niche guidelines.


 * Finally, the actual grounds of the proposer - that position or not, as "Press coverage appears to be entirely absent." he warranted deletion. This isn't the case, though it doesn't seem miles off. There are plenty of mentions, discounted for now, a couple of larger articles about subpoenaing him (and his position), and some longer discussions with him, including some interviews. The interviews would be useless for actually supporting non-basic facts within the article, but can still demonstrate fundamental notability being given to the individual/article as in WP:INTERVIEW.


 * Still a blurred state, but hopefully this provides some food for thought - if I can find some clearer secondary sourcing I'll post them for ease. Nosebagbear (talk) 10:06, 2 May 2018 (UTC)


 * 'Delete the coverage is not enough to show notability for a local figure. County populations should not be directly compared to city populations in considering weather their leaders are notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:02, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * In fact, that depends entirely on which city and which county is involved. In some jurisdicitons, the power lies largely with the county, in others, cities have relatively more power. Some cities have charters that make the mayor very powerful, others don't.  Looks to me like this county exec holds real power.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:16, 8 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete- County executive by itself is not a notable position. His other claims to notability all rely on WP:NOTINHERETED--Rusf10 (talk) 00:10, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.