Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian Morrell


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The result was   delete. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  00:26, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Brian Morrell

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Appears to be a self-promotion article written by individual named in article.
 * WP:COI issues
 * Professional Career Consists of Less Than 1 Round
 * Unable to find any Google hits for amateur career
 * See Article talk page for additional comments ttonyb1 (talk) 05:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.   -- &mdash;/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 06:14, 3 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. However short his career was, he was a professional athlete, which meets the requirements of WP:ATHLETE. JulesH (talk) 10:14, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

The page Brian Morrell is and should be a notable page, Morrell still continues to be involved in the Fight game ??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianrmorrell (talk • contribs) 14:52, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment JulesH is correct that, if it's verified that Mr. Morrell's 1990 bout was sanctioned by a major professional boxing organization, then WP:ATHLETE would apply. I can't tell from the source (boxrec.com) what level of the sport this was at, and even that site lists this as unverified.  Balancing against WP:ATHLETE is the problem of conflict of interest WP:COI, and I think that would squarely apply here.  Being middle-aged myself, I wish Mr. Morrell all the best of luck in pursuing his dreams.  Being mentioned in Wikipedia is near the bottom on a list of honors, however, because it's the encyclopedia that anyone can edit.  Mandsford (talk) 02:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete-The "professional" fight in question cannot be verified. Sorry.  In the interest of "full disclosure" I nominated the article for AfD. ttonyb1 (talk) 00:44, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Verified ???clik/chek any of the other fights, the main event was real as the entire fight card, BoxRec.com is in conjunction with Wikipedia themselves, a sort of brother (sister) site... 
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:00, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,   Sandstein   16:50, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Part of the requirements of WP:ATHLETE just like all of the notability guidelines is that the sources must be verifiable, independent, third party sources. The cited source is not verifiable, so it is not a reliable source.  This means it cannot be used as evidence that this person meets the requirements of WP:ATHLETE and deletion is in order.  Theseeker4 (talk) 18:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment What's the problem with the cited source? It appears to have a reputation of being at least mostly accurate (although somewhat incomplete), from a scan of comments about it on google. JulesH (talk) 21:40, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete even if fight can be verified it would still fail to meet the threshold of WP:ATHLETE. "Competion of equivalent standing for non-league sports" is a bit higher threshold than a grand total of 1 round, or being a sparring partner. Pretty much anyone can get 1 fight somewhere, he hasn't done anything notable.Horrorshowj (talk) 03:41, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


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