Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian Sinclair (veterinary surgeon)


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The result was keep. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  13:42, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Brian Sinclair (veterinary surgeon)

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I can't find any significant coverage about this individual, or anything which would satisfy notability per WP:ANYBIO. His fame (if it can be called that) appears to be solely by dint of the fact that a supporting character in the semi-autobiographical All Creatures Great and Small (franchise) was based on him, which wouldn't pass WP:NOTINHERITED. As an alternative to deletion, the page could potentially be redirected to one of the pages about the franchise, although I'm struggling to find an obvious target. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 20:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Roller26 (talk) 13:11, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
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Keep: The subject is the reality behind one of the three main characters in a series of books, TV series, and films that have been extremely popular for around half a century. His activities and personality were of great importance to the genesis of the material. To describe him as merely 'a supporting character' is disingenuous. Frankly, this is a ridiculous nomination, that one has to assume has been made by someone who has no idea of the widespread interest in, and popularity of, the material that is significantly based on this person. It's particularly odd considering that even TV series that only ran for a few years may well have separate Wikipedia entries for many of their fictional characters. PRL42 (talk) 16:31, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Comment: It may be that the problem here is that the article is titled for the real person and should actually be subsumed into an article titled for the fictionalised name. Possibly the best move would be to create an article for Tristan Farnon rather than have that title redirect to Brian Sinclair as it does at present - particularly as that is almost certainly the starting point for the route anyone interested in the character would take PRL42 (talk) 10:57, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 21:09, 14 September 2020 (UTC) Comment Further - a second TV series based on the original (bestselling) series of books has now (Autumn 2020) been made and broadcast, with a 2nd series commissioned. Interest in the characters is likely to increase, given that it is widely known that the fictionalised Tristan Farnon (who appears from the 2nd episode) and other primary characters were based upon real people who lived until comparatively recent times. (This unsigned comment was originally appended by 90.255.166.171 to the 'keep' above in a way that defeated the auto sig robot. Moved by PRL42. PRL42 (talk) 07:51, 20 September 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment I have now created a page for the character and this article is included. This brings things into line with standard Wikipedia practice whereby characters from fiction have entries based on their fictional names. Therefore I've changed my suggestion to 'delete'. PRL42 (talk) 09:14, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete The article is undersourced and google searches are not finding anything substantial that could be added. The only notability derives from the character based on him in the book which is too tenuous.  If there was an article covering the book series, then mention of him and his brother as the inspiration behind the Farnon brothers characters would be appropriate but there is nothing sufficient for a standalone article on him. noq (talk) 07:57, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Actually, not 'just in the book', but in seven books, two films and two sets of TV series, the first of which has sold world-wide. This person, albeit under his fictional name, is extremely well known and is is very likely that anyone interested in the books and series would be interested in the person who is the basis for one of the three main characters. PRL42 (talk) 08:41, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   18:46, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep The subject has clearly been noticed; the page gets thousands of views on a daily basis. If more details and sources are wanted then this is done by looking for them; not deleting the page.  For example, see The Originals: Who's Really who in Fiction, which has entries for the Sinclairs.  Applicable policies include WP:ATD; WP:NEXIST; WP:NOTPAPER and WP:PRESERVE. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:18, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Same argument per the bizarre proposal to delete the Donald Sinclair article. The man is extremely notable, but under the name of Tristan Farnon. Arcturus (talk) 22:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)


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