Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brickbat Revue


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The result was   delete. Jujutacular (talk) 20:56, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Brickbat Revue

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Non-notable broadsheet lacking non-trivial support. Ghits and GNews lack substance. red dog six (talk) 19:26, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete This publication has not received the necessary notice by independent sources. The references in the article are mostly about one of the founders of the publication; the others are passing mentions. Google and Google News Archive searches find nothing of significance. --MelanieN (talk) 20:39, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 23:29, 4 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Brickbat Revue is an LA based broadsheet that services the local black community by providing an outlet for African-American poets to print their original works. It also provides political and cultural analysis of the events in the local black community. Although it has a limited internet presence because it is a broadsheet that is difficult to reproduce on the internet, it is a valuable resource with a dedicated local readership that deserves to be highlighted on Wikipedia. The black community has so few media outlets to cover its artistic scene and it would be a shame to remove a reference to a viable small media outlet, that is keeping independent print journalism alive in its on small way, from Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisamj2 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 30 November 2013 (UTC)  — Lisamj2 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Comment - How does this meet any of the Wikipedia criteria for notability. red dog six  (talk) 14:22, 12 December 2013 (UTC)


 * In the world of online literary journals Brickbat Revue is a rarity. It reaches back and borrows from Wallace Berman's Semina, it is reminiscence of the Aspen Wall Posters. Original work that is a true labor of love. While Teka Lark is one of the most innovative poets in L.A. this project sadly includes none of her work. It includes the work of people of note in the L.A. literary an art scene. Original pieces by Brendan Constantine, SA Griffin and Jaha. In times like these it's so important for physical works of art that are underground be preserved, because they are important pieces of history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannichi (talk • contribs) 17:17, 1 December 2013 (UTC)   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1635schl (talk • contribs)  — 1635schl (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Comment - How does this meet any of the Wikipedia criteria for notability. red dog six  (talk) 14:22, 12 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I feel that the Brickbat Revue has significant value in L.A.'s literary community.


 * 1) It has published original works by all authors listed.
 * 2) S.A. Griffin, Wanda Coleman and Brendan Constantine's work all later went on to be published in book format by respected publisher which signifies the work is significant, not simple reprints of old work.
 * 3) The Brickbat Revue also has original work by Danny Weizmann one of the original writers at the L.A. Weekly.
 * 4) The Brickbat Revue is not a vanity press or print on demand, which many small presses in L.A. are, which makes the Brickbat Revue unique.
 * 5) It's internet footprint is light owing to the owners being a bit luddite in nature and actively trying to keep print alive and shunning the internet a bit, but just because it is not online doesn't mean it's not relevant.
 * 6) The Brickbat Revue is archived at UC Berkeley, Cal State L.A. and Barnard College.


 * Brickbat Revue is a substantial literary journal. It is archived in several academic institutions in the U.S. It is a physical archive of the Los Angeles literary scene from the early aughts forward. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.138.69 (talk) 16:21, 29 November 2013 (UTC)   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1635schl (talk • contribs)  — 69.115.138.69 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Comment - How does this meet any of the Wikipedia criteria for notability. red dog six  (talk) 14:22, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: We don't require references that establish notability to come from online sources. If you can point to off-line sources that show that this article meets the Wikipedia criteria for notablity, that is also fine. Sancho 18:01, 12 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. Agree with nominator's reasons. Sancho 18:01, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.