Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bridge Ndilu


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The result was no consensus. Spartaz Humbug! 15:25, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Bridge Ndilu

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested on the basis of his cup appearance for Nantes, however, since Aviron Bayonnais do not play in a fully professional league, this does not satisfy WP:NFOOTY. Sir Sputnik (talk) 12:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete a non-notable footballer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:24, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails--Ortizesp (talk) 00:22, 23 May 2020 (UTC) WP:FOOTY.
 * Delete - fails GNG and NOTABILITY. GiantSnowman 21:51, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I thought Aviron Bayonnais was professional (like the rugby team), but it isn't, so fails WP:FOOTYN. But there are a few sources (Ouest-France, France Bleu..) that indicate it possibly reaches WP:GNG imho. --Coco (talk) 22:46, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Just Keep From reading some of those French articles, I am inclined to keep, although local to the French football league and some attention from Italy, I actually think this just passes WP:GNG, I was wondering if any of those delete votes above read any of the French articles. Govvy (talk) 16:03, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Just Keep While he technically does not pass WP:FOOTY due to not having played a FPL match yet, he's a 19 year who transferred to a Ligue 1 club - has made the matchday 18 five times per soccerway for a Ligue 1 match and has appeared in a Cup match. While technically that doesn't meet the requirements, given his age and the transfer fee paid for him (rumoured $4 million) - just seems highly probable to me that he'll play a match soon (probably early next season) and will then meet the requirements.  Is it worth the effortto delete the page only to re-create it in a couple months when he makes the appearance? RedPatchBoys (talk) 22:39, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep Whether WP:GNG is met or not is pretty close and I'd wager that it is met, there's enough here to write a properly sourced article. It's quite marginal, though, but considering we'd probably (where probably here is probably >90%) just end up recreating the article in six months if it's deleted, deleting a marginally notable article doesn't make sense right now. SportingFlyer  T · C  00:43, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 16:21, 29 May 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Fails NFOOTY. Sources amount to mostly trivial transfer speculations. -- BlameRuiner (talk) 23:16, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Draftify. Not convinced there's enough depth in the sources I can find to satisfy GNG. The only detailed one in the article is the Italian scouting report, but that's a Wordpress blog and not demonstrably WP:RS. Mr Ndilu is clearly close to making his FPL debut (and, unlike the wonderkids forever "about to sign" for a massive club, has actually done stuff in his career), and if/when he does, the article's already in a decent enough state to put live. Incidentally, he didn't cost &euro;4 million: the Ouest-France article (ref #2 currently) says that Laval lost their professional licence when they failed to get promoted back to Ligue 2, which left Mr Ndilu out of contract. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:23, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Draftify per Struway2 above. Best approach with an upcoming player who may meet GNG in the near future. No Great Shaker (talk) 20:31, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - barely fails NFOOTY by splitting hairs, as he while he has appeared for a fully-professional squad in the top tier of French football in the 2019–20 Coupe de France, it was against a semi-professional side. And he's also appeared in the line-up (and subsequently on the bench) during other fully-professional matches. However media coverage does meet GNG with this and this. And there's certainly no end of other media coverage in reliable sources that allow for the creation of detailed article, such as this article earlier today. Nfitz (talk) 22:34, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Draftify Seems like the best option. WP:TOOSOON for this one. KidAd (talk) 06:07, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


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