Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bright Eyes Sunglasses (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Missvain (talk) 16:59, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Bright Eyes Sunglasses
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this survived an AfD in 2012, but our notability standards are higher now. The "articles" referenced in that AfD are still present in archive form in the article and they're not of the standard that provide significant coverage. Other GHits are limited to retail directory listings. StarM 02:36, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.       StarM 02:36, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.       StarM 02:36, 14 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:41, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Keep or merge/redirect to Oakley, Inc. or Luxottica (each of which once owned Bright Eyes Sunglasses). From the Wikipedia article: "The company having grown to 155 stores, 1/3 of which company run, eventually came under the control of Oakley, Inc.,[3] which was itself purchased by Luxottica in 2007, transferring ownership of the chain to Luxottica.[3] The takeover resulted in Luxottica becoming "by far the biggest eyewear chain in Australia."[4] In 2008 Luxottica having reduced the business to 47 stores, sold the business back to business partners Ralph Edwards and Geoff Harbert." Here are sources I found about the subject:  The article notes: "The second buy-back occurred in October when Ralph Edwards and Geoff Harbert re-purchased the BrightEyes Sunglasses chain from Luxottica, which owns retailers such as OPSM and Sunglass Hut. Edwards and Harbert were originally part of an Australian consortium that purchased Bright Eyes in 2000. Over eight years the pair expanded the business from 80 to 140 franchises, making it Australia’s largest privately owned retail sunglasses network, but in 2007 they sold Bright Eyes to Oakley Inc."  The article notes: "Founded in 1985, Bright Eyes Sunglasses grew from one store in Cairns in Queensland into a network of 115 across Australia in just over 10 years. But the founder, Robert Johnstone, sold out in 1996 and the chain started going backwards. Franchisees in locations where there was little pedestrian traffic could not turn a profit, and 40 stores closed in three years. At the end of 1999, there were just 82 franchise outlets left." <li> The article notes: "BRIGHT Eyes Sunglass stores are quickly creating a national footprint with their 116th store about to open in South Australia. The chain has been growing steadily since being purchased by the current franchisors five years ago. In BRW's 2005 special feature on Australian Franchise systems, Bright Eyes Sunglass was voted ninth fastest growing Australian franchise."</li> </ol>Cunard (talk) 10:16, 14 December 2020 (UTC)</li></ul> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment my concern on 1/3 was whether they were substantive and independent vs. amplifying the store's own content.      <b style="font-family: Verdana; color: #6633FF;">StarM</b> 17:31, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Pinging Articles for deletion/Bright Eyes Sunglasses participants who have been active in the last year: and . Cunard (talk) 10:16, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - I voted keep 8 years ago, citing a couple sources. This remains a pretty marginal call, honest people may differ, but I would argue that it passed sourcing then and that notability is not temporary. Standards for inclusion at WP have not changed all that much in the interim. Carrite (talk) 16:32, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Please add more references. With that many locations in Australia there should be many sources and stories to reference. Eric Carr (talk) 03:30, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You would think so, however I could not find a single appropriate article in a ProQuest database search of Australian and New Zealand newspapers. On that alone it appears to fail GNG. Cabrils (talk) 02:52, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep passes notability but should be built out more.--TerrellTrevon (talk) 17:56, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ─ The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  15:52, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - prepared to give this one the benefit of the doubt, as per the sources cited above. Deus et lex (talk) 08:12, 28 December 2020 (UTC)


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