Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brighton, Syracuse, New York


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Tone 23:15, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Brighton, Syracuse, New York

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Completely unreferenced article, with no indication of notability beyond the local context. Powers T 18:05, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  -- &mdash;innotata 21:27, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep and move to Southside, Syracuse, which is what the city calls it, at least in 2010. The South Salina Street Historic District is located inside this region. The neighborhood was the subject of two magazine articles, in Ms. and the now defunct Plenty. (I'm a little amazed myself.) Judging from this history of the area there's quite a lot to say. (Confusingly, city-sponsored Tomorrow's Neighborhoods Today still calls it Brighton, probably because "TNT Southside" encompasses a four-neighborhood area.) --Pnm (talk) 04:49, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The Ms. article doesn't refer to a specific neighborhood, just the "south side" of Syracuse generically. The Plenty article refers to just a single event involving the neighborhood; it doesn't provide the necessary background on the history or importance of the neighborhood.  And we already have an article on the South Salina Street HD, which does not automatically confer notability on its surrounding neighborhood.  I don't find these sources adequate by any stretch.  Powers T 14:42, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Re the Ms. article: it does refer to this neighborhood. --Pnm (talk) 16:10, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You'll have to help me out; I don't see it. Powers T 18:19, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems I can only tell from knowing the context: they're referring to a poor, predominantly African American neighborhood. Strathmore and Elmwood are both predominantly white, and Strathmore is affluent. ("Southside" isn't used to refer to Strathmore, except by TNT.) I suppose you're correct, though, that the article applies to both Southside/Brighton and Southwest. (You can almost see how the highway boxes in those neighborhoods, as the Ms. article described.)
 * That's a bunch of OR, clearly, and probably too much for this source to establish WP:GNG on its own.
 * Fact is, this plant is in the neighborhood, and it's the relationship isn't just incidental. It's the this neighborhood's "longtime residents who were asked to move." Do you really think creating Midland Avenue Regional Treatment Facility is a better option?
 * If you haven't already, take a look at paragraphs 2-4 of the history link. That text isn't cited, but it was copied from the successful application for the historic district (arguably reliable), and describes the neighborhood as a whole. --Pnm (talk) 22:47, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It would be nice if we had some third-party sources that clearly delineated this neighborhood and its importance. I nominated it because such sources appear to be lacking.  Powers T 18:47, 13 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep and move per Pnm; plenty of significant coverage to be found. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 07:53, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, rename may be appropriate. This is part of complete, encyclopedic coverage of all the Syracuse neighborhoods; creating a redlink for one of the items in the set is unhelpful, especially since sources do exist.--Arxiloxos (talk) 15:54, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The sources are insufficient; only those neighborhoods with significant third-party coverage can be written about. Powers T 18:19, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, This is one of 26 established Syracuse neighborhoods. Yes, it is part of the southside, however, so are Elmwood, North Valley and South Valley. Are you planning on deleting them too? That would be kind of crazy because Brighton sits due north of both North Valley and South Valley on the Syracuse neighborhood map. If the page for this neighborhood is deleted it will completely screw up the Syracuse map and links since they refer to all 26 of the neighborhoods including 4 on the so called Southside. Is someone going to recreate the map and fix all the nav bars and links? I have a lot of concerns over this decision and think it is A LOT bigger decision than some out here think. I am actively working on the Syracuse neighborhoods so plan on adding info in near future.--Nconwaymicelli (talk) 16:00, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
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