Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bris Vegas


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 01:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Bris Vegas

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There's no evidence that this term is in widespread use, and it lacks notability as far as WP:N is concerned - it's not the main subject of any published work (the subject of the only source referenced in the article is Brisbane itself or the History of Brisbane, not this term). Waggers (talk) 14:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete as nominator Waggers (talk) 14:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 *  Delete ; as noted above, may be worth a mention in Brisbane if a source can be found. I've heard of people going to Vegas to get married; never heard of anyone going there to get circumcised. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect as a section in the Brisbane article. The usage of the term seems quite adequately established.  But since all accounts seem to concur that it refers only to Brisbane, I'm not sure it is really a separate subject.  - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 13:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Question, of course it's applied only to Brisbane, it's Brisbane's well-known and used nick name. There's extensive use in other sources that can't be cited because they're not reliable sources but as someone who has lived in Brisbane, I can tell you it's used a lot. Without getting into an otherstuff argument, Big Apple applies to only to New York City. I don't see reference to one city being a good reason to merge it. It's a valid, used name in many reliable sources. FWIW I think, I think you and the nom misunderstood what the term meant when talking about the ritual, and the nom missed the chapter in the originally cited book which lends a chapter to the origins of the nickname. TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 18:36, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The real issue for me is whether there's enough there to justify a separate article. With Big Apple, there easily appears to be.  Were there less, it could merge happily into the article in chief about New York City.  It's not a question of notability; it's a question of undue weight; the chief article about New York is long enough that forks are justified, and devoting several paragraphs to one of its nicknames may strike a discordant note.  Last time I looked this was fairly brief, brief enough to merge without either losing information or giving the main article on Brisbane undue emphasis on the nickname. The note about the ceremony was another of my lame attempts at humor.  Apparently I'm not very good at it. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 17:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification, I was genuinely puzzled but now it makes sense, even if I don't completely agree. We'll see where this goes. I admit the original article didn't assert the nickname's notability, but I think it does now. That's biased, I re-wrote it. I'm bad at understanding humor so I'll take part of the blame for that TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 18:55, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep plenty of RS coverage including how it got its name. It needs cleanup, not deletion. TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 17:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment, I've now re-written it. It still needs to be expanded but it's sourced from some relatively unknown publications such as the BBC, The Age and The Courier Mail. Some help from local folk with access to print sources would also help. TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 02:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.   — TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 17:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep - clearly notable with just a trifling amount of looking. Used in news stories Brisvegas sheds tawdry image for uber cool look (Sydney Morning herald, March 3, 2008), as a book title Meanjin to Brisvegas: Brisbane Comes of Age (2005), referenced in The New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English, commonly used in books, news and others to refer to Brisbane. The term clearly is in widespread use and is notable as far as books and news are concerned. - Peripitus (Talk) 23:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, per User:Travellingcari. I absolutely despise the nickname, but it's in fairly wide use here in Brisbane, and as shown, there are heaps of sources for it.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 23:01, 4 April 2008 (UTC).
 * Keep. Hesperian 01:00, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as edits since nomination now show term notable. Being a Brisvegas resident I often use the term in my emails to indicate where I'm from.--Sting au  Buzz Me...   11:10, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep thanks to good work of editors providing reliable sources and cleaning up the article! -- Chuq (talk) 00:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep widely used and useful entry. &mdash;Moondyne click! 01:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.