Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/British Blues Exhibition


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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 13:53, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

British Blues Exhibition

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I'm having trouble finding what could be considered a critical mass of independent coverage of this exhibition (actually I'm having trouble even figuring out who runs it and where they are based - the website is very coy about that). They seem to be quite good at creating a social media presence, which leads to articles like this (basically a re-posted tweet); but I haven't found a single independent, in-depth article in a newspaper, magazine or similar publication. Looks to me like these guys are just gearing up and it may be WP:TOOSOON. Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:58, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:28, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Given the functionally mixed comment, a relist seems to do no harm and potentially some benefit
 * Comment - not WP:TOOSOON as the British Blues Exhibition webstite About section says they held the first exhibitions in 2015 (with planning starting in 2014) - as for who runs it and where it is based, the About section also says that "This project, the brainchild of Blues writer, podcaster and PR Darren Weale" - the website Contact section connects to Weale's PR company Pro Music Agency, based in London, UK, which says, "We are involved in the British Blues Exhibition and our founder, Darren Weale, was a former board member of the UK Blues Federation" - it does not appear that Weale is using the Blues Exhibition or the Blues Federation to promote his own PR business - I couldn't confirm the writeups in Blues In Britain and R2 (Rock'n'Reel) print magazines - there's an interview with Weale about the Exhibition on the Music Heritage UK site - there seem to be mentions of the Exhibition in a number of places, but no in-depth coverage or reviews (that I could find) - perhaps others with more knowledge of the British blues scene will have more luck - Epinoia (talk) 01:06, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 20:26, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete a Google search doesn't turn up anything substantive. While John Mayall is a big deal in British blues (and could safely be seen as a reliable source in determining how important this exhibition is to the scene), and significant coverage from him would thus go a long way in helping the Exhibition pass the notability guideline, his website on the link given in the article says, in full, John supports the British Blues Exhibition and has donated three of his signed harmonicas to it. Website: www.britishbluesexhibition.co.uk, which is not such coverage. Nor do I think such coverage is provided by the Barber website here, which in any event seems almost like a conflict of interest and thus non-RS as Barber says that he is a supporter of the British Blues Exhibition, which recognises his unique and pivotal role in the development of Blues music. (Maybe I'm just reading too much into that, but the whole thing is about a paragraph and thus still not SIGCOV in any event.) All in all, neither of the sources given make the Exhibition notable, nor does a Google search provide anything, so this article should be deleted without prejudice to a future recreation if/when the Exhibition gains enough traction to be covered in more appropriate sources. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 21:17, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Comment I hope this is readable, I struggle with the tech side of Wikipedia a little. Darren Weale here, exhibition founder. I appreciate the input/review as I recognise veracity in Wikipedia content is vital. Elmidae kindly explained Notability to me and I can see why this page (that I created) is up for review. The exhibition has taken time to build and will be in the Barbican, London, next year, and that will carry a lot of Noteability value. So if the page comes down now and needs to be restored with better evidence later, that's fine. I could look out the RNR and Blues In Britain articles, but they're rather buried in the hard copy collection of the exhibition and hard to access. Incidentally I have images of John Mayall with a certificate awarded to him by the exhibition, but this is not announced yet. If anything I have done is against the grain of Wikipedia, I'd look to change it. Thanks for your input and time. Darren192 (talk) 21:47, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note to closer: if closed as delete, I would suggest a soft delete, assuming that a Barbican exhibition may generate sufficient coverage in the near future., you could then just drop me a note when you think that the press has had a good go at it, and we can get the article reinstated and properly referenced at that point. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 22:27, 29 August 2019 (UTC)


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