Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/British Institute of Technology & E-commerce (BITE)


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The result was   Keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 13:31, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

British Institute of Technology &
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Doesn't appear notable and apparent advert/promotion of educational establishment.

All main sources are from the organisations own website. Other sources are passing mentions, directory listings, or similar places where any registered educational organisation would appear, or, passing mentions as use as a conference centre. Exception is http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=419175 which mentions the organisation directly, but only briefly. Doesn't appear to be a notable organisation based on my search. If all education bodies are notable then still requires cleanup. Also mentioned alumni 'Apurv Mishra' doesn't appear to be notable either. Not sure if COI issues are present here as sole editor has a closely related username, and has only edited this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Bitelondon ? Oranjblud (talk) 13:26, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 15:36, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Surely the Institute is notable as the 5th largest private higher education institution in the UK with more than 1,000 students at the higher level, and also because the Chancellor is the Muslim peer Lord Ahmed of Rotherham, who is certainly a notable figure?
 * The answer to the third part is no - see Notability_(organizations_and_companies)
 * For the other parts - I can't say absolutely - the figures you give are just statistics - but please see Notability (organizations and companies), currently I don't see that the article shows that the establishment is notable.Oranjblud (talk) 23:23, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:26, 24 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Dubious -- A univerity with only 1000 or so students hardly sounds substantial; high schools are sometimes bigger. In other words, it is probably a NN college.  Lord Ahmed's article does not refer to the college.  This sounds as if it is not a college merely set up as a means of generating visas for people who claim to want to study, but actually just want to work in UK, but it cannot be far from that.  I would like to see significant independent sources before I would want to aloow it to be retained.  "5th largest private" does not make it significant because most higher education colleges are in some degree state-funded in UK.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:26, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * From what I gather - the type of people who attend may not need visa's or work - more likely to be signing arms deals on behalf of a ruling middle eastern monarchy in a future career, or managing a large steel empire...


 * comment having made an attempt to clean up the article (advert, user-guide) I am not as sure as whether it should be deleted. I found several mentions in "The Hindu" eg mostly like this http://www.thehindu.com/education/article889841.ece, http://www.hindu.com/2007/12/26/stories/2007122658630200.htm - I'm not sure about these - why does only this newspaper cover it? Possible link? don't know. The organisation has verifiable links to established universities -eg http://www.uel.ac.uk/undergraduate/specs/tech-ecommerce/ - such as accreditation links, or 'twinning' - but I found nothing of great significance. I'm tending towards a 'proceedural keep', based on size, official recognition. Borderline.Oranjblud (talk) 13:18, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dori ☾Talk ☯ Contribs☽ 00:07, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep The article should be re-written, yes, but all universities are, IMHO, notable. I don't know, though, whether there is a policy respecting this or not. Diego Grez (talk) 00:31, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, there is strong consensus that "independently accredited degree-awarding institutions" are considered notable. The school's affiliation with the University of East London and the University of Wales are secondary but persuasive indications of notability.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  01:54, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above keep & comment voices. It gets a short but reasonable write-up from the QAA and is one of the larger private providers in the uk . It is a notable component of the contemporary UK educational landscape, and for that reason we should have an article on it. --Tagishsimon (talk)
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