Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/British Rail Class 930


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The result was redirect to List of British Rail departmental multiple unit classes. Daniel (talk) 22:59, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

British Rail Class 930
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Entire article is WP:OR. Has been hatnoted as uncited for 12 years. Prepopots (talk) 06:14, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:44, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete No sources on this class exist online as far as I can tell, beyond Wikipedia mirrors. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:16, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * British Rail Class 950 and Departmental_vehicle list sources which could possibly cover this (this applies to all other similar nominations too). It's likely some other form of offline source exists (possibly in other issues of The Railway Magazine, too). I don't think there's much doubt that these indeed exist (there are pictures one can easily find), its just that there's not nearly enough coverage at this moment to write encyclopedia articles on them. This could possibly be a starting point for the older classes. It might be more logical to redirect to parent class as possible search terms (so, in this case, most probably British Rail Class 405). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:08, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I would not be opposed to a redirect instead, assuming a valid target is found. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:09, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * These could also be valid sources, if one has access to them. Those already listed in British_Rail_Classes_445_and_446 might be of particular interest. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:12, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment The Rail Enthusiast cite in Departmental vehicle is of no use; it is about ballast wagons with no reference to the subject of these articles. Problem with British Rail Class 405 as a redirect target, is assuming the article is correct, is that the donor units came from over multiple classes, so it's not really the correct parent to redirect to. Same applies to the other articles except for the Class 901 which were all Class 101s. Prepopots (talk) 04:05, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Still, I would tend to assume with all the sources found, there's likely to be at least some content about this, so finding a suitable WP:ATD would be better, until someone can get access to these sources. The alternative would be redirecting to List of British Rail departmental multiple unit classes; as it's unambiguous that this existed, and well that list is short enough that it should be exhaustive. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 05:01, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of British Rail departmental multiple unit classes as RandomCanadian. My Platform 5 spotting guides from 1996 and 1988 do confirm various units belonging to this "class" and under the "Class 930" designation, but doesn't say anything further about them. Mackensen (talk) 13:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect per others ... not spending a lot of time as nom. has done several at once. Stuff generally available at railcar.co.uk via coach numbers (likely sps but likely accurate) and would be in the UK rail magazines to which I dont subscribe.Djm-leighpark (talk) 03:16, 5 December 2021 (UTC)


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