Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brittany Ann Payne


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The result was redirect to Miss Earth United States. per WP:PRESERVE 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 15:47, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Brittany Ann Payne

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Miss Earth United States is not a title that automatically grants notability. Subject has not achieved notability in any other aspect as well. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 04:35, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. IntoThinAir (talk) 04:42, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:49, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 04:49, 5 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment Have done some cleaning up of references. Subject was Miss Earth Water 2015, i.e. second runner up to Miss Earth. I see one decent reference for notability. Will follow the discussion to see if anyone can find more. Imho article should be at Brittany Payne per common name. Article is also outdated. I added an update template. gidonb (talk) 02:36, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Being a runner-up to a pageant does not give a subject notability. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 02:41, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Not automatic. Point in mentioning was that Miss Earth Water is more than Miss Earth United States, as in the intro. I have updated the article name. Posting a link below for more sources. gidonb (talk) 03:09, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I’m pretty sure Brittany Ann Payne is her commonly used name, that’s what she’s always been known as when competing. Dismissing her as a “runner-up” I think is disingenuous, there’s a difference between being a runner-up to a state or national title and being a national titleholder and being a runner-up at a major international pageant.  But that’s all academic because it comes down to whether she has received significant coverage in reliable sources, I haven’t had a chance to investigate that.  ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in   Oz  10:41, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I’m pretty sure Brittany Ann Payne is her commonly used name, that’s what she’s always been known as when competing. Dismissing her as a “runner-up” I think is disingenuous, there’s a difference between being a runner-up to a state or national title and being a national titleholder and being a runner-up at a major international pageant.  But that’s all academic because it comes down to whether she has received significant coverage in reliable sources, I haven’t had a chance to investigate that.  ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in   Oz  10:41, 11 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete this is a runner up title. I deleted some unsourced speculation about some event she might attend. These pageant pages are an embarrassment. Some woman (usually) wins anone day contest based mostly on looks and she gets a page. Another woman builds a multimillion dollar business over many years, employs thousands and generally impacts the world around her and she is generally found to be unnotable. It is really stupid. WP:NOPAGE applies to these articles. Legacypac (talk) 09:50, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete a runner-up title does not make someone notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:27, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Miss Earth United States, as I mentioned above I think the point needs to distinguished that she was a national titleholder and progressed to being a runner-up at a major international pageant - rather than a runner-up at a state or national pageant - but regardless I have been unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources that shows she meets the notability guidelines. ...  CJ [a Kiwi] in   Oz  23:46, 11 November 2018 (UTC)


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