Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BrokeNCYDE


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  kur  ykh   00:41, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

BrokeNCYDE

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Band which fails the notability guidelines at WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Previous article at Brokencyde has been speedily deleted (A7) eight times. A7 speedy (unasserted notability) for this article has been declined. JD554 (talk) 07:48, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Added by Cunard (talk) on 00:18, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   —JD554 (talk) 08:28, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator, notability still hasn't been asserted. - Mgm|(talk) 08:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete As the admin who (barely) declined the CSD speedy deletion, I nonetheless don't think this topic meets WP:MUSIC. Gwen Gale (talk) 13:48, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:MUSICBIO 5 because only one album has been produced by one of the more important indie labels. [Phlygh  t ]  14:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello, I am the creator of the article in question. This band has performed on Total Request Live a couple months ago, which matches with number 10 of the musical notability guidelines. This is the only claim to notability, so would that be enough? I want to add that, but I am not sure what "(But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article." means exactly. Thank you very much, as I surely want to make this page notable enough. --Kamangir1214 (talk) 22:48, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Could be. Please add and cite it with a reliable source. Gwen Gale (talk) 23:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. If that is not enough, nothing more can be done I suppose. --Kamangir1214 (talk) 00:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The source may be reliable enough for this topic, although it seems the band played only one song, which wouldn't be enough to meet WP:Music. Gwen Gale (talk) 11:35, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Eight deletions, still not notable. Remake it when/if they become notable, not before. Also noting that the album article The Broken (Album) was created along with this one and should be counted in this AfD as well. --Ifrit (talk) 17:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Their only claim to fame seems to be having lots of myspace friends. Anyone can get lots of myspace through use of add bots and/or add whoring. 209.136.161.135 (talk) 22:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * One hundred fifty thousand friends is not too impressive compared with other, more popular artists, although I agree that those techniques could have been applied. I believe the song plays are a bit harder to "whore". But all in all, their notability is not impressive enough for inclusion. --Kamangir1214 (talk) 23:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, song counts are pretty easy to whore, and still may be, unless myspace changed how they embed the players. Song counts will often be scored not when the song is completed but when the song begins, so by embedding the player in bulletins and other pages, it was easy to rack up high play counts.75.33.107.122 (talk) 04:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

(talk) 03:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977
 * Comment: When this band is deleted, please deleted The Broken (Album) as well. Cunard (talk) 00:18, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:MUSIC ''still. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  00:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Soi dissant "editors" here are too quick to delete articles just because they haven't heard of that particular band, or artist, or musician, or historical figure, etc. Meanwhile there are a pathetic amount of articles of questionable usefulness and "notability" dedicated to anime and other insipid subjects. I've only heard of this group in passing but if every obscure village ever mentioned in Star Wars can have its own article then surely there's enough room on the servers for an article about this band. -- Pen the Booker (69.242.225.132 (talk) 00:28, 22 November 2008 (UTC))
 * If the article can show that the band are notable per Wikipedia's guidelines at WP:N and WP:MUSICBIO then it can be kept. At the moment it doesn't do that. Once all the evidence has been gathered to show the band are notable then the article can be recreated. --JD554 (talk) 07:58, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm all for deleting that crap too. 75.33.107.122 (talk) 04:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete this self-promoting crap. Wikipedia is a source for facts, and shouldn't be abused by some kids trying to get rich by making terrible music with their parents' money. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.56.120.66 (talk) 08:27, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Keep WP:MUSIC clearly states: "Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a (...) performance in a television show." Brokencydes TRL appearanve is clearly sufficent to meet this criterion. Furtermore the article also meets the criterion "Has received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.227.245.179 (talk) 16:39, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Keep as per 85.227.245.179, it seems to meet criteria 10 and possibly 4, which, while a bit thin, does meet the criteria of notability. Darquis (talk) 23:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


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