Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BrokeNCYDE (4th nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. WP:SNOW  MBisanz  talk 22:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

BrokeNCYDE
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Cookie-cutter YouTube band who fail to pass WP:WEB and WP:MUSIC. I know what you're thinking, "it has sources!". These sources were present in the last AfD, which was showing a delete consensus but was kept on purely procedural grounds. There is no showing of notability, and given that the page Brokencyde is salted after creation over the last year, I doubt this is anything more than promotion of a non-notable band, but my hands are tied and it has to go to AFD, instead of being speedied. Sceptre (talk) 03:38, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt Sources don't cut it. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 03:40, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * What grounds would there to be to salt this article? -- Oliver  Twisted (Talk) (Stuff) 05:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably this. § FreeRangeFrog 07:11, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree that these sources are insufficient to satisfy notability requirements. Reyk  YO!  03:41, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - The sources are insufficient for notoriety as they're not reliable sources according to WP:RS.  Ol Yeller  '''Talktome 07:48, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, passes WP:MUSIC;, , , . And they've seemed to have done a bit of touring .   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 10:56, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * None of the citations you listed are reliable under WP:RS. Especially the blog.  Ol Yeller  '''Talktome 12:12, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The three music sites don't seem to be professionally written, but the blog is. It belongs to the Dallas Observer. The fact that its music news reporting is done in blog format should not disqualify it as a source. Be that as it may, it's only one source, not multiple. -Freekee (talk) 16:58, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Not notable. Alberon (talk) 10:59, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - There is close to no independent reliable coverage. Even the three sources used in the article are borderline at best. As User:OliverTwisted says on the talk page : "After the Warped tour 2009 has launched there will be additional sources". Until then... Delete, and do what people think Rome did to Carthage, until somebody can show some real sources. Dendlai (talk) 13:55, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - The sources given do not meet the required standard for WP:MUSIC. I notice that they are touring the UK in the coming months - perhaps that will lead to some reliable independent sources appearing, but for now the page should be deleted, as suggested by the previous three AfD's. sparkl!sm hey! 21:11, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   —sparkl!sm  hey! 21:14, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as per above.- Binary TSO ???
 * Weak Delete I voted to keep this article in the 3 previous AFD discussions; however the article is being edited completely in the wrong direction, getting farther away from meeting notability guidelines, rather than moving closer to it. Until there is recent press on the band resulting from one of their UK tours, or the Warped 2009 tour which should start next month, the consensus seems to be to delete the article. However, in response to the nomination comments by Sceptre, I feel I have to respond. In my opinion, this shouldn't be a race to see how fast band articles can be deleted. The fact that the band article survived 3 previous AFD discussions was not due strictly to "procedural grounds," but to the fact that it was borderline notable. At least 20 different editors have weighed in on this over the last year with very little agreement. Also, at least 3 admin members did not feel comfortable closing the AFD discussions with a group consensus of "Delete." As one of the most prominent national music tours in the USA, no band signed to play the Warped 2009 tour should ever be Speedied. AFD is EXACTLY the place for this article. I'll now yield the soapbox. ;o) -- Oliver  Twisted (Talk) (Stuff)  05:24, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The first AfD deleted the article, and the second AfD kept the article. The third AfD was inappropriately kept. Sceptre (talk) 14:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, the second AfD was deemed "no consensus" which isn't the same as "keep". So far, BrokeNCYDE hasn't managed to get through and AfD with a "keep" consensus. Dendlai (talk) 14:58, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete No WP:RS. --Sloane (talk) 02:04, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: insufficient independent reliable sources WP:BAND. JamesBurns (talk) 04:14, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - No reliable sources to esablish notability. And salt. The fans can request removal of protection and transfer of an userified article to the main namespace when and if this band becomes notable. § FreeRangeFrog 07:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


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