Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bronte Carmichael


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The result was delete. MelanieN (talk) 20:55, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Bronte Carmichael

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WP:BLP of a child actress, not properly referenced as passing WP:NACTOR. Virtually all of her roles to date have been minor bit parts, with only one role (Christopher Robin) that might potentially be significant enough to count toward NACTOR #1 -- but even that criterion requires multiple significant roles, not just one, and actually passing it requires some evidence of reliable source coverage about her and her performances, not just technical verification that the role was had. But none of the footnotes here are cutting it at all: five citations are to IMDb, which is not a notability-supporting source; two are to unreliable blogs, which are not notability-supporting sources; and one is to a newspaper article which briefly namechecks her existence only in the caption to a promotional photograph, and not in any of the body text. The other potential notability claim is that she was nominated for, but did not win, an award -- but every award that exists is not an automatic free pass over WP:ANYBIO: if you can source the nomination only to the award's own self-published website about itself, because media coverage about the award is non-existent, then by definition the award is not notable enough to make its nominees notable for getting nominated for it. Nothing stated in the article is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to show much more reliable sourcing than this. And furthermore, due to the potential for a Wikipedia article to cause harm, we have an established consensus that we have to be especially vigilant about the notability of underage minors — which means no article at all about somebody under the age of 18 unless they have a very clear notability claim supported by very solid sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 17:08, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete one significant role does not meet the notability requirements for actresses. All the more so when the person is still a child.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:49, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep: The subject's main role in the very notable film, Christopher Robin (film), and her recurring role in Nightflyers (TV series) are enough to scrape through under WP:NACTOR, I believe. There are also many, many passing mentions in reliable sources, but I haven't found much in-depth coverage. Thus far, I have only found two sources which provide brief but favourable comments regarding the subject's acting: https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/christopher-robin-2018 and https://www.austinchronicle.com/events/film/2018-08-02/disneys-christopher-robin/. I would feel more comfortable keeping this article if additional non-trivial coverage can be found. Dflaw4 (talk) 07:52, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Neither of those sources do anything more than mention her name. Bearcat (talk) 00:02, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
 * The content on the subject is very brief, Bearcat, but more than a mere mention: "... Carmichael, hewing out her own midcentury niche after small parts in Darkest Hour and On Chesil Beach..." and "... a very good Bronte Carmichael..." Dflaw4 (talk) 09:06, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —  Newslinger  talk   05:27, 23 March 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:10, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per Dflaw4. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 17:06, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete I would not classify the subject's appearances in Christopher Robin or Nightflyers as "main roles". Cheers, 1292simon (talk)
 * Delete since subject fails all three criteria of WP:NACTOR. Testifying to the lack of general notability, almost all the sources, i.e. IMDB and the like, proffered by the text are unacceptable. The fact that the creator of the page is practically a kamikaze account doesn't help, either. -The Gnome (talk) 17:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)


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