Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brooklands photo archive


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The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:03, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Brooklands photo archive

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No third-party references, contains self-references. ViperSnake151 Talk  14:34, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - The self-reference is easily fixed, but I fail to find reliable sources to establish notability for this website. — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  15:13, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions.  -- — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  15:13, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per the reasons above. However, an article on the "Brooklands Society" which runs this archive seems to meet the threshold of notability, since they seem to be a registered charity, mentioned here. Some of the content in this article might be reusable in an article on the Brooklands Society itself. &#9775; Zenwhat (talk) 16:21, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Although I recognise the poor 3rd part citation and the issue with WP:RS, we ought to fix that by tagging the problem and editing, not by summary deletion. The history of Brooklands is highly notable, this archive documents that history. There is no issue here with WP:N, and even little in respect of WP:V, unless you fancy a sophist circular argument about 1st party sources.
 * We cite photos from this archive in many WP articles about early motor-racing, there's even a template for doing just that. I created this article for two reasons: firstly as a target for a "publisher" link from those cites, secondly as a very obvious place to hang a warning not to breach their licensing conditions by uploading these images to Commons. I do care about our referencing policies, but I care far more about our observation of copyright. As one of the people likely to end up facing the mopwork from a well-intentioned but unacceptable image-dump into pre-war motor-racing, I want to keep that warning visible! Andy Dingley (talk) 20:35, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, if you want a target for the "publisher" link in cite, link directly to Brooklands Society or let Brooklands photo archive be a redirect to Brooklands Society, which I think probably should have an article. If you want a place to hang a warning about not breaching the Society's licensing conditions, that needs to be in the Wikipedia namespace, not the article namespace. — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  23:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge or Delete: No significant coverage in third party sources to meet WP:ORG or WP:GNG. Very weak coverage in third party sources such as did turn up in a GS, but nothing of any substance. As such, I have to recommend merging the material into the parent article, or in the alternative, deleting it. Jo7hs2 (talk) 23:54, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: Well part of the problem is that there is no parent article - yet. – ukexpat (talk) 03:07, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Good point. ;) Jo7hs2 (talk) 03:54, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge - into Brooklands. This isnt an actual Archive, more of a photo history of a specific site (the Brooklands track). If it were an Archive, it's pictures would be used by others, which it isnt. Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  07:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: Brooklands photo archive should be deleted as redundant to Cite web. Personally I feel its a somewhat selfserving advertisement. Exit2DOS2000   •T•C•  07:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete, Wikipedia is not a photo gallery. Stifle (talk) 23:13, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
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