Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruce Crabbe


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Ravenswing's opinion is discounted because it does not contain an argument pertaining to the article itself (rather than to the nominator and the deletion rationale).  Sandstein  08:51, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Bruce Crabbe

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Non-notable minor league baseball figure. He's nearly 50 and has never held a major league job. I don't think he has WP:POTENTIAL. Fails WP:BASE/N. Alex (talk) 21:14, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Former Manager of the Year winner and current minor league manager. Spanneraol (talk) 22:02, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:28, 21 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep: It's getting to the point where I'm ready to vote Keep on anything Alex nominates, reflexively. This is looking more than a little pointy.  The subject's age and whether he has been employed at the major league level are screamingly irrelevant.  Ravenswing  17:21, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable minor league manager stuck at the lowest level of the minor leagues.  Other winners of that prestigious award which are red links or make no mention of the award: Mike Shildt, Paul Runge, Rob Mummau, Ray Smith, Nick Leyva, Bruce Crabbe, Nick Capra, Steven Turco, Jorge Orta, Julio Cruz, John Gibbons, Joe Cunningham.  Also, can someone explain how Crabbe and Jeff Carter both won that same award in the same year?  Wknight94 talk 22:16, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * According to Baseball Cube, Carter won it in 2000 and Crabbe in 1999. Spanneraol (talk) 22:51, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Class A manager with no significant coverage. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:05, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Non notableMiracleMat (talk) 23:40, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep as being the Appalachian League Manager of the Year is sufficient to convey notability per policy, whether or not that achievement impresses any individual editor. The woeful incompleteness of stubs like Ray Smith (baseball) have no bearing on the notability of this article. - Dravecky (talk) 17:44, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * How does being Appalachian League Manager of the Year convey notability? Nobody has answered my questions about why low-level awards like that make one notable. I'm not impressed with the coverage, and he has not gone on to have a notable career following the award. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:31, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. No significant extrinsic references supporting notability. The assertion that winning a minor award "conveys notability" in itself is totally contrary to policy. Neutralitytalk 18:54, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 03:01, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Former minor-leaguer; subsequently and currently a low-level minor league manager. On this basis, no particular reason to assume subject's notability, per WP:BASE/N. Article offers a few references, but press releases and media guides are not useful to evidence notability. Once won a manager award in a rookie-level league, but Muboshgu's link illustrates the lack of notability associated with this award. My own Gnews and general web searches return WP:ROUTINE reports, primary sources, trivial mentions. Fails WP:BASE/N, fails WP:GNG. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 05:09, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
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