Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruce DePalma


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. — A itias  //  discussion  00:05, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Bruce DePalma

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This bio of a quack inventor flunks WP:BIO, WP:ACADEMIC, and any other notability policy. Guy nominated it for deletion in April 2007, but some WP:ILIKEIT votes destroyed consensus, and two years later we still have an unreferenced article that is a mess. Since the prior AfD, Wikipedia consensus has grown for the need for references in biographies, and I believe the lack of improvement in the page in the last two years shows that Guy's original nomination was correct. THF (talk) 14:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

This article poses an interesting trilemma. You can only choose, which essential guideline to break: So my summary is, to proceed and delete, unless a white knight enters the stage and presents sources which we have missed in our search. --Pjacobi (talk) 16:25, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Only write what is or can probably sourced by reliable sources (like the stub on dewiki, which will see a deletion debate soon). But then the article cannot assert the notability of DePalma
 * Take the stuff the self-proclaimed heirs of DePalma's ideas write on their web sites as source, violating WP:RS
 * Read the stuff DePalma has written himself, brush up your physics and synthetize an interesting article. Would be a nice piece of journalism, but violates WP:NOR here.
 * Delete - Perpetual motion machines are as plentiful as rumors about Paris Hilton, and some of them are notable, and some of their inventors are notable in ways other than idiotically attempting to ravage the laws of thermodynamics and make Carnot and Kelvin roll over in their graves, but neither this guy nor his theories seem to be either. And the fact that the bio has to mention the familial ties in the intro pretty much tells me this was written grasping at straws. § FreeRangeFrog 19:16, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - the previous AfD hinged on people saying that he was notable among fans of perpetual motion ... but since that time, no one has been able to find any independant third party sources to demonstrate this notability. That (after two years) the only reference listed for this article is the subject's website should be a good indication that this guy just isn't notable. Heck, we don't even have independant verification of his being Brian DePalma's brother. HERE THERE YOU GO: www.experiencefestival.com/brian_de_palma_-_director_trademarks Blueboar (talk) 22:01, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Exists, but lacks in depth independent coverage. - Eldereft (cont.) 03:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:BIO does it. ScienceApologist (talk) 19:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. I "created" the article long ago because it was unlinked from somewhere - one of his inventions, I believe. Fine with me to delete.--Justfred (talk) 20:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.