Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruce and Pepper Wayne Gacy's Home Movies


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The result was   keep. –MuZemike 23:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Bruce and Pepper Wayne Gacy's Home Movies

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Non-notable film lacking GHits and GNEWs of substance. Appears to fail WP:NOTFILM.  ttonyb (talk) 14:36, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * According to the guidelines for notability:


 * The film was given a commercial re-release, or screened in a festival, at least five years after initial release.


 * This film has been shown as recently as this year, 2010, in Berlin, Germany, New York City, NY, USA, and Toronto, Ontario, Canada, approximately twenty years after it was first released. Moreover, it is routinely screened in museums and art galleries and at film festivals around the world. Therefore, according to WP guidelines, it meets the criteria for notability. Keep. Intheshadows (talk) 15:31, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment – I see nothing in the article that confirms any recent screenings. If you note the beginning of the statement in WP:NOTFILM indicates the assertion must be supported by reliable sources.   ttonyb  (talk) 16:08, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * If you will kindly look at the third reference, it is a programme for a screening of the film by The 8 Fest in conjunction with Pleasure Dome in Toronto, Canada in January, 2010. I will add other references for the other cities as well. Intheshadows (talk) 21:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Please also see, under the "External links" section, the entry for the Queensland Museum in Australia, which screened the film as part of the series "Cinema In Revolt" which ran from December 2007 till February 2008. Intheshadows (talk) 22:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * As well, please also see reference 5 containing information about the July 2010 screening of the film in Berlin, Germany. Intheshadows (talk) 23:12, 19 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:48, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per having screened at festivals more than five years after original release. Sources now in the article are compelling. Kudos to User:Intheshadows.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * While it's true that short films aren't inherently notable in the sense that we should necessarily have an article about each and every one, it's also true that short films aren't inherently non-notable in the sense that we should never have articles about them. As with so many other topics, the decisive factor is the quality of sources available about the film; the sources here do seem to pass muster, so keep. Bearcat (talk) 05:54, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Short films are no different from feature films in terms of notability (i.e. they can be as notable as feature films or not notable at all), and while this one appears to be just as senseless and mediocre as any other short film (especially considering that it is by LaBruce, ugh), it has sufficient notability to warrant inclusion. Considering that LaBruce is (very unfortunately) considered a notable Canadian filmmaker, anything he has done will have plenty of press coverage. I wish it weren't so, but such is life. Laval (talk) 08:33, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I would also like to note that the screening of the film in Queensland, Australia, as part of the series "Cinema In Revolt", which ran from December 2007 till February 2008 also meets this guideline for notability:


 * The film was featured as part of a documentary, program, or retrospective on the history of cinema.

Intheshadows (talk) 10:04, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep due to the cited sources showing that the film has continued to be screened in festival and retrospective programs; the notability criteria are satisfied. --Larrybob (talk) 21:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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