Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruneau (restaurant)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:51, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Bruneau (restaurant)

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I prodded it with the following rationale: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline and the more detailed Notability (biographies) requirement. " It was deprodded by User:Necrothesp with the following rationale "Michelin-starred restaurant is probably notable". Well, the article doesn't even mention Michelin star, but in either case, is this enough to make a restaurant notable? Particularly in absence of any other sources, making this a perennial stub... Good to discuss for the future. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:30, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Has a Michelin star. Clearly notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:33, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Nothing clear here. What policy states this is sufficient? I say it may be sufficient for a merge and redirect to List of Michelin 3-star restaurants. Not that there is anything to merge, really. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:34, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:V. The Banner talk 13:38, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 10:33, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 10:33, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. According to the Dutch Wikipedia article, this was a three star restaurant from 1988 to 2004, and then lost its second star in 2010. A very recent item in Food and Wine Gazette notes that "Michelin paid hommage to the legendary chef Jean-Pierre Bruneau who will retire in January. His Brussels restaurant Bruneau has been in the guide for 42 years, 15 of which as a 3 Michelin star restaurant."   Here's a recent article about the restaurant's upcoming closing from Food&Sens and there are many more articles, especially in French, about the restaurant and the chef that can be used to improve this article.  I can understand the recent spate of restaurant AfDs directed toward run of the mill restaurants with only limited local notoriety, but three-star restaurants, past or present, are the sort of thing that belong in the encyclopedia, and the article should be developed, not eliminated. --Arxiloxos (talk) 19:50, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947  (c · m)  18:57, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep- Not because of the Michelin Star, there are literally over a thousand restaurants that have one. The reason is when I did a google search on the chef I found a ton of articles (Unfortunately they are not in English, so I can't read them though).--Rusf10 (talk) 23:02, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep move coverage in French:, . I'd be inclined to support a guideline that Michelin 3-star restaurants are presumably notable, but there's no policy to that effect currently. power~enwiki ( π ,  ν ) 23:20, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - WP:GNG - The Michelin Guide is considered a notable list, and as such a reliable source. Power~enwiki shows that there is also other in-dept attention for the subject. As such, it meets WP:GNG. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 17:02, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - There is enough here that WP:GNG can be satisfied. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:25, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. The are are not a thousand restaurant that have eve had two stars (as this one has had), but a few hundred, and I consider all of them presumptively notable. Any such restaurant will have extensive non-promotional coverage. I am much less sure about extending it down to one star.  DGG ( talk ) 23:31, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I came up with thousands based on this:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/maps-and-graphics/map-michelin-star-restaurants-countries-with-the-most/. But you are correct that most of them only have one star.--Rusf10 (talk) 00:51, 9 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. –Superbly rated, recognized by peers, referenced, Gault Millau high-rating and Michelin star do surely establish notability here. –Ammarpad (talk) 00:10, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. A restaurant that quote "has been a beacon of shining excellence", formerly held 3 Michelin stars for 16 years, and still has one. Sources have been added, there is more work to do here, but this is not material for deletion let alone uncontroversial deletion via PROD. Sam Sailor 15:12, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Notable, passes GNG. There are ample references that are intellectually independent. -- HighKing ++ 15:08, 10 December 2017 (UTC)


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