Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruno Baltazar


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 01:55, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Bruno Baltazar

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This is a non-notable person. Please note that the article hadn't claimed that Baltazar had been a professional basketball player until it was "copy-edited" (i.e., completely rewritten) two months ago. This is what it looked like before. So he is just some basketball scout and journalist, nothing that creates notability. Concerning his coaching career, there's no indication he's ever coached a game in a professional league or cup competition, which also would be quite unusual for someone who's that young. Also consider that the article is an orphan and there's strong evidence that Baltazar has written this article himself. Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 15:32, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Portugal-related deletion discussions.  —Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 15:32, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions.  —Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 15:32, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.  —Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 15:32, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 01:32, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I just realized that a former article about him was speedy deleted on 31 October 2007. It had been started by User:Bruno8921 – his user page is quite telling... --Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 15:53, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep - passes WP:ATHLETE. Needs work, but, definitely notable.--Unionhawk Talk E-mail Review 13:21, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Uhm – no, not at all. As I explained, he has never played basketball at a professional level. That claim is the result of a copy-editor's apparent misinterpretation of the original text. And yes, I did search Google and basketpedya nonetheless, even tried alternative spellings (basketpedya tends to confuse first names and surnames when someone has as many names as Bruno Baltazar, so I also considered that), and found absolutely no evidence for that claim. According to basketpedya, the club Barreirense has indeed participated in the highest division of basketball in Portugal every year since 2000, but Bruno Baltazar has never been part of their squad. I only included this debate in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions as a matter of form. Apart from that, I'm still absolutely sure that Baltazar wrote the article himself, and I can't see any way how he could have missed twice to mention the fact that he had played on a professional level (if he really had), while explicitly stressing his achievements as a scout, coach, agent, reporter and even lover. --Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 20:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * And btw, concerning that tournament at which he has coached a professional team: I couldn't find much about it (in fact, just these two articles), but it apparently is a small pre-season tournament like many others. Even if it wasn't, there's no reference in the article that would prove his participation, and there's no date given. --Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 20:52, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh. In that case, striking original keep !vote. Needs sources. No opinion either way.--Unionhawk Talk E-mail Review 13:54, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
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