Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bulgarian Human Rights in Macedonia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Editors are encouraged to seek out more sources for this organization. There are arguments for and against notability, however it would appear that it is just notable enough to remain for now. Those who still feel this should be deleted are asked to try to improve the article, then open a new AfD in a couple weeks if that fails. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 14:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Bulgarian Human Rights in Macedonia

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No real evidence of notability. Superm401 - Talk 01:55, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Note that this is an organization, not an article about the phenomenon. I'm going to say weak delete as simply being rumored to be associated with someone is not itself a real claim to notability. --Dhartung | Talk 03:43, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, its not really just "rumored," is it? It was enough to induce a government statement. And yet, that is the only link to any notability. I suggest that this be merged with an article about the Bulgarian community in Macedonia, etc. or ethnic politics in Macedonia. That way, the rumored connection will have proper context. If one cannot find a home for this, it is justifiable to delete. Vishnava (talk) 05:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be notable. &mdash; from Notability. That means that just because it doesn't have multiple, reliable sources doesn't make it non-notable. So keep, it is notable enough for inclusion IMO-- Phoenix -  wiki  06:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. There is no evidence of significant media coverage, just a single incident with some coverage. Superm401 - Talk 13:36, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. It's hardly justifiable to call this even an "organisation"; it's really not much more than a one-man website used by a confused individual to spew their hate propaganda. Just because that individual got his fifteen minutes of media attention because he lied about foreign backing doesn't make it notable. I'm also against merging: the media incident had its significance in relation to the (non-existing) notability of this guy; it had no significance to the wider issue of actual Greek-Bulgarian politics. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:41, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * (after ec:) and Phoenix-wiki, I'm baffled by your rather tortuous distinction between "significant" RS coverage and "multiple" RS coverage. That seems wiki-lawyerish to me. Whatever the distinction between significant and multiple, this organisation has neither. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.   --  Beloved  Freak  10:34, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Macedonia-related deletion discussions.   --  Beloved  Freak  10:34, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete It's not notable. If it is going to be kept, it should be dealt with as a website (along the lines of Stormfront (website), since their contents and scope are similar) rather than an "organization" whose continuing existence is poorly sourced.--Dexippus (talk) 13:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep The organization exists and is registered in Greece as NGO. The Greek guys could check... --91.191.221.214 (talk) 14:14, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "The organization exists" is not an argument for having an article. Superm401 - Talk 10:45, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep Ethnic issues and minority rights are extremely important in the Balkans, and articles that contribute to the understanding of these issues are notable and should be kept. This organization has a somewhat longer page on the Bulgarian wikipedia. http://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91%D1%8A%D0%BB%D0%B3%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D1%87%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0_%D0%B2_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F for those of you who speak Bulgarian.  Furthermore, this is not just a one man organization.  According to the Bulgarian wiki, it has over 500 members making it a notable organizations.  Additionally, as others have noted it was involved in a controversy when it claimed endorsement from the Bulgarian Prime Minister, which is enough to make it notable.  Blahblah5555 (talk) 04:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.