Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bulgarian development under the Ottoman Empire


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ✗ plicit  23:35, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Bulgarian development under the Ottoman Empire

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I don't know what this article is about and I'm not sure we need it. Super  Ψ   Dro  23:20, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Bulgaria,  and Turkey.  Super   Ψ   Dro  23:20, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete it’s a machine translation of ….things. What things I’ve no idea but it’s not coherent or useful, and does not really have a topic. Mccapra (talk) 01:05, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You're mistaken here. The article's topic is pretty clear from the text, but in case this helps, the article was formerly titled "Bulgarians during the heyday and expansion of the Ottoman Empire". It's a fairly straightforward subtopic of Ottoman Bulgaria, and so it's clearly notable. However, it does have issues with the referencing: the main source is the late 90's Bulgarian equivalent of an A-levels history textbook. The somewhat flowery language typical of these texts has made its way into the first section of the article, which is probably the reason why you thought it was machine translated. – Uanfala (talk) 21:49, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete huge swathes of uncited OR/essay, all very hard to verify. Bulgarian Ottoman history is already clearly and thoroughly treated through a number of articles and while someone may one day write a specific article about Bulgaria under the Ottomans, for now I think the Bulgarian Lands can be let go. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:37, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete jumble of a text with no clear citations. Seems to be already covered in other articles. Oaktree b (talk) 00:08, 30 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete kind of vague, considerable amount of unsourced content, and a total of only two sources. Ottoman Bulgaria is not that long, so the sourced material here can be integrated to that article. Aintabli (talk) 02:34, 2 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Before calling for friction, it is good to be at least a little familiar with the subject.

Ottoman Bulgaria is not the same, it is even radically different, for example, in the 16th century compared to the 19th century. In the 16th century, Bulgarians felt comfortable in the empire and even considered it their own. In the 19th century it was the exact opposite. That's why this topic has a separate article. --Станислав Минков (talk) 09:01, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Confusing and poorly sourced. This article contains original research and written in a way that violates Wikipedia's policies on neutrality and verifiability. Infinity Knight (talk) 09:51, 4 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete The article is poorly supported by sources. --NiftyyyNofteeeee (talk) 11:00, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Even if arguably notable, the article would qualify for WP:TNT. Shawn Teller (hy/hym) (talk) 15:40, 4 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.