Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bump and Go toys


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Mechanical toy. Any content can be merged from the article history (non-admin closure) Devonian Wombat (talk) 03:11, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Bump and Go toys

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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline and the more detailed Notability_(organizations_and_companies) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. Given the near total lack of references (outside a link to a crowdsourced site=unreliable fan project), there is no content to merge, and anyway there is no valid merge/redirect target I see. The PROD was removed with no valid rationale despite my request to provide one (per best practices) by a habitual deprodder, so here we go. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:18, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Products-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:29, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Toys-related deletion discussions. Toughpigs (talk) 15:29, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep This mechanism enables automata to cope with obstacles so that they spin their wheels and then charge off in another direction. A nice analogy, eh?  The details can be found in Tin Toys which explains how it works and that it is also known as the "Mystery Action" or "push-and-go".  As such vintage toys are quite collectable, there are plenty more works of this kind and so there's good scope for improvement per our policy WP:ATD, "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page."  See also WP:NEXIST. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:04, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to either Mechanical toy or Automaton. I don't think this is a notable enough subject on it's own to warrant a separate article. The term "Bump and Go" is vague and as Piotrus says it isn't used anywhere to describe toys. IMO it isn't correct to say that every single instance of a toy that changes direction by opposite force is a "Bump and Go" toy. There has to be instances where the term is actually used. "Mystery action" doesn't cut it as far as there 1/1 connection it and "Bump and Go" toys. That said, it would be fine as a redirect to the articles I cited. Both of which discuss similar things and could probably use information about "Mystery Action" and "push-and-go" toys. Especially Mechanical toy. Which appears to be on the verge of having it's own AfD. Ultimately, this is another good case of there not needing to be three different articles on almost the same subject. Really, they are all talking about the same thing. So, redirect it to a better sourced and more relevant is the correct thing to do. --Adamant1 (talk) 23:15, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 09:50, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge Merge this page with Mechanical toy It should be an H2 section under "Type" along with pulley toys, crank toys, and gear toys.  None of those subcategories of mechanical toys have warranted their own page, I see this type of mechanical toy in the same light. 10Sany1? (talk) 20:13, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Mechanical_toy: There is simply no WP:SIGCOV from WP:RS. Does not meet either WP:GNG or Notability_(organizations_and_companies).  // Timothy ::  talk  10:30, 6 November 2020 (UTC)


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